Reason Needs Time Align

[Magnus]

Now Reason has native Pitch Edit it needs the other holy grail of modern vocal production, Time Alignment.

Given we have the equivalent of Melodyne inside Reason now, the next step is the equivalent of VocAlign:

This is already possible manually by shifting stuff or by using hard quantize values with the inline ReCycle on Audio Tracks, but what we really need is a macro or time alignment based on other tracks.

Whilst implementing this, it would also make sense for Props to allow ReGroove to be applied to audio too; even if its just an offline apply (I imagine realtime might be tricky).

[Loque]

Interesting. It would be enough for me at the moment, if working with samples and arranging the timing would not be such a PITA at all, regardless if it is a vocal or something else. Pretty hard to just take a transient and move it to the right position or changing a marker without weird moving sample view or that it is sometimes just impossible to place something right. Due i do not work with vocal samples only, i need something that works for all samples at first.

[C//AZM]

YES!
Six hundred times yes.
Works great when musicians are playing a complex part together and you want to tighten up their accuracy in spots. Also works great when replacing dialog or tightening bkg vocals.

[michal22]

Yes, I also want this function very much.
The first step may be the multi-lines mode for audio tracks. Seeing the shadow of the second track will make setting the timing easier.

[Marc Swing]

YES! GIIIIF MEE PLLZZZ!

[WeLoveYouToo]

this would be great, but first we need audio snap so we can even align audio clips with each other, which is bery hard if you are working with clips that do not end or begin exactly on a grid

[Enterface]

Or just support VST3 and we can all use VocAlign in Reason? Would rather have it baked into Reason though...

[RobertPayne]

Definitely a YES for this feature.

[moneykube]

yes please

[mcatalao]

Vocalign is a Vst right? I guess you can already have this in reason.

Anyway though propellerheads did a great work with the pitch editor it needs some stuff like a scale guide and magnet (melodyne has this ages ago) for harmonization.

As for vocal aligning if audio quantizing is not tnkigh for you, after editing your pitch you can apply vocalign already.

[mcatalao]

Forget what I said it is vst3 only...
My bad.

[PhillipOrdonez]

Yes! And regroove on audio as well please!

[rabid]

interesting, i asked this in a roundabout way just now and find this. its almost worth using another daw and this vst just for the vocal and exporting and importing back. Any idea of a most basic program to run this vst within?

[Enterface]

Also tried this free Lua script for Reaper but wasn't very satisfied with the result. I found the transient detection to be finicky and mostly inaccurate. Seemed like this would have been a good "free" alternative.

[Magnus]

I've got the VocALign Project standalone I use on Mac. I export vocals out of Reason, use VocALign to sync the BVs to the Master Vocal and then reimport all the audio tracks back into Reason. Whilst from a workflow perspective it's not ideal having to come in and out of Reason like that, the results VocALign creates are simply unbeatable. I used to do this kind of time alignment manually in Reason nudging and quantizing slices and it just takes far too long to do when you've got loads of vocal tracks stacked up; it also never quite lines up as well as VocALign's algorithm.

Hopefully Reason 11 will offer an overhaul of ReGroove that includes offline Audio in someway and totally replaces the need for a third party application like VocALign.

[Boombastix]

Cubase just got this in the latest version. Zplane is a company that license this type of technology if they do not want to build it themselves.