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I pray for sequencer improvement..
Posted: 14 Sep 2018
by Loque
I complained about stupid sequencer hopping while editing long notes that completely destroyed my flow a while ago...And today, i have a audio sample, set it to voice-stretching and re-arrange the slices until they fit. And yes, i slap you PH (really!) if that thing will go into a pitch-edit mode on double click again when i left it on "SLICE-EDIT-MODE!!! Man seriously...
This is like auto-closing VST windows...I WILL close it if i dont need it anymore. THANKS!
The fact that i cannot drag a sample around while in slide edit mode or the wave display is weird and its pretty hard to set the slice markers correct, i tried to live and deal with it...but yea, it is still anoying as hell.
And than again such little anyoing things...like Kong still turns back its defined external audio channel when i drag a new sample on the pad. Really...i SET that channel because i WANT TO USE IT and it is NOT RELATED in any kind to a new sample! No idea why Kong has not enough channels on the backside or why it cannot be automatically routed to audio mix channels. If i want to mix in a Drum-Synth, i would let you know...
I now go for a walk and calm down...Pray for sequencer improvements and improvements of those little things...Than, hopefully with fresh air in my head i come back and continue making music...
Re: I pray for sequencer improvement..
Posted: 14 Sep 2018
by demt
Right!
Re: I pray for sequencer improvement..
Posted: 14 Sep 2018
by Jagwah
Don't worry, I think sequencer improvements could likely be very high on the to-do list over there at 'secret' headquarters.
Boy, imagine a video track in that sequencer!
Re: I pray for sequencer improvement..
Posted: 14 Sep 2018
by Loque
Ok...now i calmed down. But sometimes with those little things i feel like
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Re: I pray for sequencer improvement..
Posted: 14 Sep 2018
by EdGrip
LOL yes @ auto-closing VST windows! ^_^
Re: I pray for sequencer improvement..
Posted: 14 Sep 2018
by xylyx
The inability to rename a clip is one that grinds with me...you have delete the label first and then add a new one!
Re: I pray for sequencer improvement..
Posted: 14 Sep 2018
by jlgrimes
Loque wrote: ↑14 Sep 2018
I complained about stupid sequencer hopping while editing long notes that completely destroyed my flow a while ago...And today, i have a audio sample, set it to voice-stretching and re-arrange the slices until they fit. And yes, i slap you PH (really!) if that thing will go into a pitch-edit mode on double click again when i left it on "SLICE-EDIT-MODE!!! Man seriously...
This is like auto-closing VST windows...I WILL close it if i dont need it anymore. THANKS!
The fact that i cannot drag a sample around while in slide edit mode or the wave display is weird and its pretty hard to set the slice markers correct, i tried to live and deal with it...but yea, it is still anoying as hell.
And than again such little anyoing things...like Kong still turns back its defined external audio channel when i drag a new sample on the pad. Really...i SET that channel because i WANT TO USE IT and it is NOT RELATED in any kind to a new sample! No idea why Kong has not enough channels on the backside or why it cannot be automatically routed to audio mix channels. If i want to mix in a Drum-Synth, i would let you know...
I now go for a walk and calm down...Pray for sequencer improvements and improvements of those little things...Than, hopefully with fresh air in my head i come back and continue making music...
Totally agree about the Kong outputs.
Props put some weird limitations on some of their devices.
Re: I pray for sequencer improvement..
Posted: 14 Sep 2018
by danc
xylyx wrote: ↑14 Sep 2018
The inability to rename a clip is one that grinds with me...you have delete the label first and then add a new one!
There are 2 types of coder...
1. LITERAL coders... those that literally build what they've been asked to build and are shocked (and often get annoyed) if you ask for them to use their initiative. This means that they rely on their team members to scope and design every finite nuance, as a guide of what is required.
2. PASSIONATE coders... those people that care about the end-users to ensure it is pleasant to use... plus ensure that it looks and feels like everything else in the software for consistency. "We need to label tracks" is the only instruction they need and a perfect solution will be delivered.
I guess "labels" was built by a LITERAL coder! And another LITERAL coder was the person that made my VST's hide every time I click off them (seriously - why do I need to toggle KEEP OPEN every time?)... I assume that they have never made music and we switch between VSTs constantly for hours on end.
Anyone else spot LITERAL coding bodges in Reason?!
Re: I pray for sequencer improvement..
Posted: 14 Sep 2018
by Oquasec
If you don't like reason sequencer you will most likely not like Cubase.
Re: I pray for sequencer improvement..
Posted: 14 Sep 2018
by Loque
Oquasec wrote: ↑14 Sep 2018
If you don't like reason sequencer you will most likely not like Cubase.
I never liked Cubase. I gave it a try a few times and just wondered, wtf? Why are ppl using that crap? But i really liked Ableton...so smooth and quick...
Re: I pray for sequencer improvement..
Posted: 14 Sep 2018
by Oquasec
to each their own then. I prefer cubase, fl studio & reason for my actual stuff.
Re: I pray for sequencer improvement..
Posted: 14 Sep 2018
by Undistraction
Be grateful for the meagre crumbs you are being thrown in the next point release and stop complaining.
Re: I pray for sequencer improvement..
Posted: 14 Sep 2018
by EnochLight
Loque wrote: ↑14 Sep 2018
I complained about stupid sequencer hopping while editing long notes that completely destroyed my flow a while ago...And today, i have a audio sample, set it to voice-stretching and re-arrange the slices until they fit. And yes, i slap you PH (really!) if that thing will go into a pitch-edit mode on double click again when i left it on "SLICE-EDIT-MODE!!! Man seriously...
This is like auto-closing VST windows...I WILL close it if i dont need it anymore. THANKS!
The fact that i cannot drag a sample around while in slide edit mode or the wave display is weird and its pretty hard to set the slice markers correct, i tried to live and deal with it...but yea, it is still anoying as hell.
And than again such little anyoing things...like Kong still turns back its defined external audio channel when i drag a new sample on the pad. Really...i SET that channel because i WANT TO USE IT and it is NOT RELATED in any kind to a new sample! No idea why Kong has not enough channels on the backside or why it cannot be automatically routed to audio mix channels. If i want to mix in a Drum-Synth, i would let you know...
I now go for a walk and calm down...Pray for sequencer improvements and improvements of those little things...Than, hopefully with fresh air in my head i come back and continue making music...
Our thoughts and prayers are with you...
#diety_priorities
Re: I pray for sequencer improvement..
Posted: 14 Sep 2018
by Catblack
Undistraction wrote: ↑14 Sep 2018
Be grateful for the meagre crumbs you are being thrown in the next point release and stop complaining.
I can't be as cynical as that, personally. I really respect Loque's opinion's (and sound design,) but I've never personally run into the issues he's reporting here. But I'm sure might. I'm also certain that just by posting this thread, Propellerhead has noted the issues and they've got them on their fix list.
Re: I pray for sequencer improvement..
Posted: 14 Sep 2018
by Undistraction
I'm also certain that just by posting this thread, Propellerhead has noted the issues and they've got them on their fix list
.
LoL
Re: I pray for sequencer improvement..
Posted: 15 Sep 2018
by diekehle
Regarding the Kong outputs. If you use the Sampler just mark the sample in the fake LCD Display and drag it into that field the output will stay. But sou are right anyway it shouldn‘t reset the outs
Re: I pray for sequencer improvement..
Posted: 15 Sep 2018
by xylyx
danc wrote: ↑14 Sep 2018
xylyx wrote: ↑14 Sep 2018
The inability to rename a clip is one that grinds with me...you have delete the label first and then add a new one!
There are 2 types of coder...
1. LITERAL coders... those that literally build what they've been asked to build and are shocked (and often get annoyed) if you ask for them to use their initiative. This means that they rely on their team members to scope and design every finite nuance, as a guide of what is required.
2. PASSIONATE coders... those people that care about the end-users to ensure it is pleasant to use... plus ensure that it looks and feels like everything else in the software for consistency. "We need to label tracks" is the only instruction they need and a perfect solution will be delivered.
I guess "labels" was built by a LITERAL coder! And another LITERAL coder was the person that made my VST's hide every time I click off them (seriously - why do I need to toggle KEEP OPEN every time?)... I assume that they have never made music and we switch between VSTs constantly for hours on end.
Anyone else spot LITERAL coding bodges in Reason?!
Yep, this is true. I had this discussion with the boss at work the other day regarding some other software (non-music related) that we received with a hardware purchase and that is full of the sort of user-unfriendly issues that meant I could tell the software was done by a literal coder, with no real thought about how the end user would approach using it.
Re: I pray for sequencer improvement..
Posted: 23 Sep 2018
by Re8et
Yesterday I had a talk with a friend, he was saying I should save my songs into the redrums, using all pattern banks, and slap them while in the mix...
I told him it was not possible, unless using a combinator...
After some minutes I realized he was talking about opening a new song, and run two or more instances of Reason together, like it was possible in Reason 3.0, async, etc etc..
When I have a surface/controller locked to a Synth and slap in a new Kong/Redrum, I lose the lock and the MIDI CC assignment needs to be done again... and I lose my mind, because I don't have a solution for this...
So now I'm thinking the old approach was actually more flow, but not yesterday in the talk...
We need more lock&stock buttons...
Re: I pray for sequencer improvement..
Posted: 23 Sep 2018
by Boombastix
Doing stuff in FL now. Ahh, how the pencil tool just automatically changes if you want to move a midi bar, or stretch it. You put a 1/16 note on a 1/16 grid, then stretch to 1/8, next FL remembers the 1/8 length and you can put on 1/8 notes on the 1/16 grid, ahhh smile. Need some strumming, you open the strumming tool that dynamically changes the note strum in many way - wonderful, and right in front of the Reason coders eyes. Really good work flow. They do not need to invent, just pick the best in class implementation - code on Reason coders - WE NEED THIS !
Re: I pray for sequencer improvement..
Posted: 24 Sep 2018
by Troublemecca
jlgrimes wrote:Loque wrote: ↑14 Sep 2018
I complained about stupid sequencer hopping while editing long notes that completely destroyed my flow a while ago...And today, i have a audio sample, set it to voice-stretching and re-arrange the slices until they fit. And yes, i slap you PH (really!) if that thing will go into a pitch-edit mode on double click again when i left it on "SLICE-EDIT-MODE!!! Man seriously...
This is like auto-closing VST windows...I WILL close it if i dont need it anymore. THANKS!
The fact that i cannot drag a sample around while in slide edit mode or the wave display is weird and its pretty hard to set the slice markers correct, i tried to live and deal with it...but yea, it is still anoying as hell.
And than again such little anyoing things...like Kong still turns back its defined external audio channel when i drag a new sample on the pad. Really...i SET that channel because i WANT TO USE IT and it is NOT RELATED in any kind to a new sample! No idea why Kong has not enough channels on the backside or why it cannot be automatically routed to audio mix channels. If i want to mix in a Drum-Synth, i would let you know...
I now go for a walk and calm down...Pray for sequencer improvements and improvements of those little things...Than, hopefully with fresh air in my head i come back and continue making music...
Totally agree about the Kong outputs.
Props put some weird limitations on some of their devices.
I'm almost certain that was a business decision... Gotta leave something for the rack extension developers. I'm assuming there's an extension with one output per channel, and if there isn't, boy do you have an opportunity here.
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