Redrum Subgroup Question

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06 Apr 2018

Hi All!

Just a quick question...

I have just sub-grouped the Redrum with some 808/909 drums and a few mix channels.

Is it best to leave the drums in Stereo or would Mono be better?

Thanks!
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06 Apr 2018

If your samples are all raw mono files, and you won’t be doing any panning or spatial effects, it’s fine to run everything in mono.

Usually though, you want some sounds to occupy different spaces in the mix, so it’s good to allow some panning for each sample by using stereo cabling.

Now if you’re asking whether to pan your drums or not, that’s subjective. Traditionally kick and snare samples are dead center with other drum elements panned and/or processed with spatial effects.

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06 Apr 2018

WeaponX323 wrote:
06 Apr 2018
If your samples are all raw mono files, and you won’t be doing any panning or spatial effects, it’s fine to run everything in mono.

Usually though, you want some sounds to occupy different spaces in the mix, so it’s good to allow some panning for each sample by using stereo cabling.

Now if you’re asking whether to pan your drums or not, that’s subjective. Traditionally kick and snare samples are dead center with other drum elements panned and/or processed with spatial effects.
Yeah leave kick and snare dead centre. So kick and snare could be mono but the others not then? in house / electronic music I'm talking if it makes any difference.

So would you pan claps and hats left? by how much, 11 o'clock, 10 o'clock etc?
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06 Apr 2018

Creativemind wrote:
06 Apr 2018
WeaponX323 wrote:
06 Apr 2018
If your samples are all raw mono files, and you won’t be doing any panning or spatial effects, it’s fine to run everything in mono.

Usually though, you want some sounds to occupy different spaces in the mix, so it’s good to allow some panning for each sample by using stereo cabling.

Now if you’re asking whether to pan your drums or not, that’s subjective. Traditionally kick and snare samples are dead center with other drum elements panned and/or processed with spatial effects.
Yeah leave kick and snare dead centre. So kick and snare could be mono but the others not then? in house / electronic music I'm talking if it makes any difference.

So would you pan claps and hats left? by how much, 11 o'clock, 10 o'clock etc?
Oh man, you're sort of getting into the "what shade of blue should I use for my sky" type of question. It's totally up to you, but if you're not sure then listen to the mixes YOU like and see what they're doing that makes you like them!
Panning is pretty easy to hear on other people's mixes, but plenty of folks here would be glad to help dissect a mix if you post one you like.

As for the mono/stereo question, it's a matter of HOW the files are stereo. Take a snare or kick for example: if it's in a dry room and you put a single mic on it, it's mono. But if the room is live, and you put a stereo mic/pair on the room, then it becomes stereo. But even then, the room is often treated separately, since it's really the kick + room. So for 'dead' sounds, they are typically recorded mono (all drums), with stereo overhead mics and stereo room mics. Not that you have to mimic that with house/electronic music. There's enough variation in that genre that you really should post an example of a track you like - and then if you want to start creating your own sound, start changing things up - experiment!
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06 Apr 2018

Always use your kicks in mono. Low end is better mono. Also do your bass in mono.

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