Question about tuning drums

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FlowerDog
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30 Oct 2017

Hello everyone
i was hoping that someone could share an easy and precise way to tune percussion-sounds like bongos etc
Isn't it strange that there is no simple build-in tuner that can be used for for drums - like the one that comes with an audio
track? If i have a nice bongo-sound and want to know which note it is and maybe fine-tune it a little bit - what is the correct way to do that?
I currenty try doing it via EQ-Analyser, but it is kind of comlicated and not very precise...
Appreciate any help

Best regards
M.

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riemac
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30 Oct 2017

Drag the sample into grain, it is perfect for pitch detection.

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Zac
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30 Oct 2017

I have used the melodyne like pitch editor. Seemed to work for me.

FlowerDog
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30 Oct 2017

grain does work, kind of - if it shows me something like D +40, it means i have to do -4 with the kong-pitcher to make it a pure D, right?

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FlowerSoldier
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30 Oct 2017

What's up OP?
I like your name.

dana
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30 Oct 2017

I usually use polar or uhbik-g to tune drums, then use ts-1 to adjust the timing (if needed)

RandyEspoda
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31 Oct 2017

FlowerDog wrote:
30 Oct 2017
grain does work, kind of - if it shows me something like D +40, it means i have to do -4 with the kong-pitcher to make it a pure D, right?
Not quite. For Kong the pitch knob goes from -1200 to +1200, meaning - + one octave.
Each equal tempered semitone is 100 cents apart.

In Grain the notes are separated from +50 to -50, so if in Grain a sample is analyzed as D#3 +40, you need to go down 40 cents to get a perfect D#3.

So you need to lower the pitch with 40 cents, which is simply -40 for Kong. It's increments are exacts cents from -1200 to +1200, an entire octave down and up.


For Redrum there are less increments, so it is less precise : the pitch knob goes from -64 to +64, which corresponds to the same -1200 +1200 cents. An entire octave down and up.

So for Redrum you need to calculate: 64 = 1200 (cents) -> 1200 / 64 = 18.75 -> each increment in Redrum is 18.75 cents. (18.75 * 64 = 1200).
So in Redrum to go 40 cents lower you would need to go down 2 increments or '- 2'...which would be the closest possible (18.75*2 = 37.50 cents).

I'm going from the presumption of equal tempered semitones, which I guess is correct (?)

RandyEspoda
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31 Oct 2017

Well for Kong I was talking about the Nano player though. The pitch knob 'offset' of Kong itself goes from -120 to +120 which would indeed be -4 to go down 40 cents :)

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platzangst
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02 Nov 2017

FlowerDog wrote:
30 Oct 2017
Isn't it strange that there is no simple build-in tuner that can be used for for drums - like the one that comes with an audio
track?
You could always route your drum output to an audio track input.

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