Re: Propellerhead Releases Reason 10
Posted: 31 Oct 2017
I put avenger in a combinator and am able to map the parameters and automate you may not like looking through the long list of “groups” but for avengers macro knobs if I’m remembering correctly it’s in group 40-45 and the filter I believe was somewhere in group 1-10EnochLight wrote: ↑31 Oct 2017Which version of Avenger are you on? I'm on 1.2.5, and can automate most of the features on a few oscillators (as many as 1-3 Osc), but yeah - looks like I run out after that point. No effects parameters. No filter parameters. Instead of clicking the automate button on the VST window, I'm just tweaking knobs with my mouse in record mode. Looks like there's a bit of work that Vengeance/Props need to work out.
Confirmed. It's a clunky workaround, but at least we can automate it all. Thanks!scratchnsnifff wrote: ↑31 Oct 2017I put avenger in a combinator and am able to map the parameters and automate you may not like looking through the long list of “groups” but for avengers macro knobs if I’m remembering correctly it’s in group 40-45 and the filter I believe was somewhere in group 1-10EnochLight wrote: ↑31 Oct 2017
Which version of Avenger are you on? I'm on 1.2.5, and can automate most of the features on a few oscillators (as many as 1-3 Osc), but yeah - looks like I run out after that point. No effects parameters. No filter parameters. Instead of clicking the automate button on the VST window, I'm just tweaking knobs with my mouse in record mode. Looks like there's a bit of work that Vengeance/Props need to work out.
Yes, Reason has only this 9 groups. So this affected too some AAS and Arturia-Plugs (and some more). I report this with the first Beta 9.5 too, but props told me 'it's by design' - Same now with BETA 10 (they deleted my report too) .dezma wrote: ↑31 Oct 2017It's for props, as avenger automation works perfectly for all parameters in Ableton. Seems they have 9 groups (you can check this in piano roll, if you go to automation). Once that runs out, all other parameters are not automatable. I'd guess this would be a general issue/limitation with all synths with a lot of parameters. The thing that worries me is that props don't seem to care. I get the feeling customer support doesn't seem to be very high on the priority list. I logged this issue again with the beta test, they just deleted the ticket.EnochLight wrote: ↑31 Oct 2017
Which version of Avenger are you on? I'm on 1.2.5, and can automate most of the features on a few oscillators (as many as 1-3 Osc), but yeah - looks like I run out after that point. No effects parameters. No filter parameters. Instead of clicking the automate button on the VST window, I'm just tweaking knobs with my mouse in record mode. Looks like there's a bit of work that Vengeance/Props need to work out.
dezma wrote: ↑31 Oct 2017It's for props, as avenger automation works perfectly for all parameters in Ableton. Seems they have 9 groups (you can check this in piano roll, if you go to automation). Once that runs out, all other parameters are not automatable. I'd guess this would be a general issue/limitation with all synths with a lot of parameters. The thing that worries me is that props don't seem to care. I get the feeling customer support doesn't seem to be very high on the priority list. I logged this issue again with the beta test, they just deleted the ticket.
Well, as Scratchnsniff pointed out, in the meantime there's always the Combinator route - which exposes every parameter to automation that's available in other DAW.JdA57 wrote: ↑31 Oct 2017Yes, Reason has only this 9 groups. So this affected too some AAS and Arturia-Plugs (and some more). I report this with the first Beta 9.5 too, but props told me 'it's by design' - Same now with BETA 10 (they deleted my report too) .
But seems, that they will change this later, because there are as so many VST's that needs some more automation-parameters (I sent them a really long list ) . So we'll see.
Thx for the tip, still a workaround but will work for nowscratchnsnifff wrote: ↑31 Oct 2017I put avenger in a combinator and am able to map the parameters and automate you may not like looking through the long list of “groups” but for avengers macro knobs if I’m remembering correctly it’s in group 40-45 and the filter I believe was somewhere in group 1-10EnochLight wrote: ↑31 Oct 2017
Which version of Avenger are you on? I'm on 1.2.5, and can automate most of the features on a few oscillators (as many as 1-3 Osc), but yeah - looks like I run out after that point. No effects parameters. No filter parameters. Instead of clicking the automate button on the VST window, I'm just tweaking knobs with my mouse in record mode. Looks like there's a bit of work that Vengeance/Props need to work out.
Hey EnochLight, thanks for responding with that tip! Yeah, in fact I've started to use the zoom feature a bit. In fact the tiny graphics issue has not been a huge problem, I was more pointing towards the fact that Props seem to have stomped out the first barrier to entry ("just" having the native devices that were available in R9).EnochLight wrote: ↑26 Oct 2017That's pretty cool insight - thanks for posting this. That said, about working on your 5K iMac... have you tried the built-in OSX zoom? It works just as awesome as Windows zoom does, or at least very similar to this:
Hey RoryM0, yeah I can totally understand what you are saying. Part of what has convinced me to jump on board with Reason is the community, everyone who uses it seems to be pretty passionate about this software. Passionate users can also be very harsh when they feel their passion has been crossed.RoryM0 wrote: ↑27 Oct 2017
Yes I'd also like to thank you for posting this insight. I too am a fairly new user, I was shopping round for music software earlier in the year, tried Bitwig, looked at Maschine, Renoise, dabbled with a few other things, then was demoing Reason 9.2 around the time 9.5 was announced. Loved it, bought 9.5 and started a collection of RE's! Am now using Reason and RE's with a few VST's here and there as my main creative music software, with a bit of Reaper too when detailed audio work is required.
Reason really feels like an instrument to me, a studio, with some DAW functionality built in. I use it for what it is, not what I think it should be. Adding VST's was a great move I think, and Reason 10 has got loads of great stuff in it (not upgraded yet, will do before end of the year) for new users and existing ones, and the RE subscription seems like a positive idea to get people flexible access to tonnes of quality DSP for not much money at all.
I found this community after becoming interested in Reason, I joined in June and visit regularly but have posted only on a couple of occasions, but I feel like there is a lot of negativity on here whenever I visit, and am teaching myself to visit less often (atm it's like a habit, open browser, go to Reasontalk first, then email, hardcore, etc.) because I'm a bit bored of the gigantic moan-gasm that this forum sometimes appears to be.
I've invested in Reason so I'd of course like to see it flourish further and gain new users and improve, but if you can't make your music with what you've got here you've gone wrong in the mind more than anyone has gone wrong in the mind ever previously. Delia Derbyshire and the BBC Radiophonic Workshop made the original Doctor Who theme with just a some test tone oscillators, a white noise source, a single string attached to a bit of wood, a tape recorder and a razor blade. We have all of this functionality and moar.
Yeah I am sooo enjoying having that. Got way too much shit that I barely use meanwhile Serum is at the bottom of a long list of instruments cause xfer...TritoneAddiction wrote:Not a lot of people talk about the new feature to add your own favorite lists. Just upgraded to R10 yesterday and it's a great feature.
Now I have lists that makes sense to me with my go to stuff only and everything feels a lot more organized. And no more scrolling.
Synths
Mono Stereo
Effects
Delay Reverb
Comp Limiter
EQ Filter