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MikeMcKew
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06 Oct 2017

The stream has been uploaded to YouTube. You can watch it here:



The Grain Sample Manipulator will be available in Reason 10, which will be released on October 25th. More info can be found here.

The upgrade will cost $129 for existing owners of Reason and will be free to those who purchased Reason after September 1st.
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Psuper
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06 Oct 2017

The sample interface is nice. I have Fritz.
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teddymcw
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06 Oct 2017

Would love anyone with adequate knowledge to be able to explain any unique value propositions that Proton and Grain offer?

I haven't spent too much time with Proton and am no granular synthesis expert but am looking for an excuse to support Gustav and Selig's great work as I'm sure I'll update to R10 at some point more for the core work. I just want to know how to best support and learn by use and comparison of these two machines. Thanks!

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06 Oct 2017

Audio is all messed up.

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Loque
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06 Oct 2017

Sad, that every RE dev gives us access to the filters and the FX, but PH does not, because they "are so excited about the front". Yea, the front is good, but the back has some secret weapons, just like The Echo's feedback loop...
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06 Oct 2017

Who hates Grain enough not to upgrade?
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06 Oct 2017

I don't know about anyone else, but I am super impressed with Grain. That click gate and drag feature is very awesome and unique, as far as I know.

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06 Oct 2017

bxbrkrz wrote:
06 Oct 2017
Who hates Grain enough not to upgrade?
I whish I could say "me". Would save me 129 bucks.
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:?: The question is - Who cares :?:

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06 Oct 2017

bxbrkrz wrote:
06 Oct 2017
Who hates Grain enough not to upgrade?
You... hate it? :|

I think it sounds and looks awesome! These new synths are worthy additions to Reason imo.

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06 Oct 2017

"Grain" is where one could spend endless hours of soundshaping which can also inspire new ideas of songs or creating textures in existing songs that lack that background environment. This kind of synth is where I am sold. I did´nt want to upgrade this version, but guess it will be hard indeed not to do so when demoing it. Also nice to see next livestream with the other devices and samples.
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06 Oct 2017

Really really cool. As good as Europa, and they will go great topgether. Don't know how it compares to similar grain REs though.

Looks wild for sound design and... just so much can be taken from any sample really. Can't wait to get reese bassey with it.

Well done Props.

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06 Oct 2017

Need stereo stream ;-)

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06 Oct 2017

this interface looks better designed than the some similar REs

with one sample you get a lot of sounds and crazy things

this is a very interesting synth

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06 Oct 2017

Jagwah wrote:
06 Oct 2017
Really really cool. As good as Europa, and they will go great topgether. Don't know how it compares to similar grain REs though.

Looks wild for sound design and... just so much can be taken from any sample really. Can't wait to get reese bassey with it.

Well done Props.
1 Grain + 1 Europa + Combinator = :shock:
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06 Oct 2017

Thanks for posting! Grain is going to be so awesome!

only at :53 minutes, but that Freeze/Follow feature under Tape... Gimme!
Never seen anything like it....

GRAIN saves me $6-700 on that random count-to-5 pedal!
Superb.

Reason's UI for Audio clips is a little:
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but, I'm used to it, and it's accurate .

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06 Oct 2017

Woweeeeeee! That stream gave me all kinds of warm and fuzzies... I loved what I saw and heard. Nice! <3
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06 Oct 2017

Grain looks like it will be awesome.
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06 Oct 2017

Aosta wrote:
06 Oct 2017
Jagwah wrote:
06 Oct 2017
Really really cool. As good as Europa, and they will go great topgether. Don't know how it compares to similar grain REs though.

Looks wild for sound design and... just so much can be taken from any sample really. Can't wait to get reese bassey with it.

Well done Props.
1 Grain + 1 Europa + Combinator = :shock:
Amazing upgrade, infinite possibilities, worth $129 and more.
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06 Oct 2017

How does Grain compare to Proton RE?

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06 Oct 2017

Ahornberg wrote:How does Grain compare to Proton RE?
This is something I've seen asked a lot, and I don't have an answer for it... I don't own Proton myself.

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06 Oct 2017

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06 Oct 2017

Its a great synth well done guys.
I never got the hang of Malstrom . It has these ear piercing frequencies i can't control , compress or EQ properly and its hummy noisey and hissy. I really hope this thing can be used in a polished production sense and dosn't have that dirtyness. Its hard to tell from the demo.

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06 Oct 2017

Just an FYI, Ryan - ColdZyme is the best weapon against viking ebola.

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06 Oct 2017

Ahornberg wrote:
06 Oct 2017
How does Grain compare to Proton RE?
Grain has a few more modes or grain engines, this spectral filter and a oscilator, bunch of build in fx and looks better. Proton is quite close to Grain, but Grain actually wins. If you already own Proton, you do not really need Grain, but it is a good 2nd weapon.
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06 Oct 2017

Loque wrote:
06 Oct 2017
Ahornberg wrote:
06 Oct 2017
How does Grain compare to Proton RE?
Grain has a few more modes or grain engines, this spectral filter and a oscilator, bunch of build in fx and looks better. Proton is quite close to Grain, but Grain actually wins. If you already own Proton, you do not really need Grain, but it is a good 2nd weapon.
Grain doesn't have per-grain (particle in Proton terms) control over pitch like Proton with its quantized pitch shifting. Also, less control over grain amplitude.

They're surprisingly different devices imo. I'd use Proton for ambient recordings of birds and water and such, whereas Grain is better for playable synth sounds due to its emphasis on getting sounds that are in tune (the spectral grain is basically a tune-everything-through-FFT-filter).

At least that's my first impression after trying Grain for an hour or so.

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