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not bad at all but nothing a really need right away so im going to keep my fingers crossed that theres more workflow improvements in the (hopefully free) 10.5 update.
its almost too strange that there has been no other changes to the core program apart from new devices so there must be other things being worked on the last year that they are holding back. i suppose europa and grain look like they would have taken a lot of work to develop but everything else is just repackaged samples right? this couldnt be everything that propellerheads staff have to show since version 9 and 9.5?
so will radical piano be included in the exe or will it just be downloadable from the store for free? radical piano alone is 300 mb right? i dont know why they dont just strip out all the devices core reason so its a 50mb download and then add some UI to reason to make it easy to set it up with the devices you want... maybe some one click buttons for downloading all devices in one go or just download them in groups like all the classic devices, or all synths etc. there are still a few devices i never touch like the nn19 or those half unit effects which just take up space in the browser (which is getting more crowded as the years go on) and this must be the case for other people as well where they dont need certain devices ever but they still have to download.
its almost too strange that there has been no other changes to the core program apart from new devices so there must be other things being worked on the last year that they are holding back. i suppose europa and grain look like they would have taken a lot of work to develop but everything else is just repackaged samples right? this couldnt be everything that propellerheads staff have to show since version 9 and 9.5?
so will radical piano be included in the exe or will it just be downloadable from the store for free? radical piano alone is 300 mb right? i dont know why they dont just strip out all the devices core reason so its a 50mb download and then add some UI to reason to make it easy to set it up with the devices you want... maybe some one click buttons for downloading all devices in one go or just download them in groups like all the classic devices, or all synths etc. there are still a few devices i never touch like the nn19 or those half unit effects which just take up space in the browser (which is getting more crowded as the years go on) and this must be the case for other people as well where they dont need certain devices ever but they still have to download.
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I'm not complaining, a lot of us will be upgrading including myself.
Layers seemed like it should be packaged with R10.
All I want right now is VST optimization and stability fixes. Also was hoping for some new player type devices. Maybe R10 isn't the Milestone Version. Maybe that will come next year. I said it before Reason 9.5 IMO was an epic release and could have been called R10.
Layers seemed like it should be packaged with R10.
All I want right now is VST optimization and stability fixes. Also was hoping for some new player type devices. Maybe R10 isn't the Milestone Version. Maybe that will come next year. I said it before Reason 9.5 IMO was an epic release and could have been called R10.
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Smart business move, indeed - I thought the same. In terms of workflow changes (and maybe a new player device) I'm curious about a possible 10.5 update. At this point we take it for granted.AttenuationHz wrote: ↑22 Sep 2017
From a business point of view it is very clever. [...] It is a cynical mindset I have granted but its the truth!
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I mean, personally 9.5 and 10 are so close together as to be one update, to my mind. I would've paid for VST support if I had to, and there's stuff in here I do want to pay for. So *shrugs* it's whatever! 10.5 is gonna be very interesting. Absolutely no doubt about that!ltbrunt00 wrote: ↑22 Sep 2017I'm not complaining, a lot of us will be upgrading including myself.
Layers seemed like it should be packaged with R10.
All I want right now is VST optimization and stability fixes. Also was hoping for some new player type devices. Maybe R10 isn't the Milestone Version. Maybe that will come next year. I said it before Reason 9.5 IMO was an epic release and could have been called R10.
Props just retweeted this tweet:
"@PropellerheadSW #Reason10 huge update eta 25/10 : spotted three potent letters; KBD = #AFX style #microtuning > v rare in V synths + DAWs https://t.co/B6c96n3CyP
Dunno if that means anything to anyone.
EDIT: I should add that the KBD in question is on a screenshot of Europa's osc.
"@PropellerheadSW #Reason10 huge update eta 25/10 : spotted three potent letters; KBD = #AFX style #microtuning > v rare in V synths + DAWs https://t.co/B6c96n3CyP
Dunno if that means anything to anyone.
EDIT: I should add that the KBD in question is on a screenshot of Europa's osc.
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I think it just means that, like Thor, they have variable keyboard tracking, like real analogue style synths! But yeah, it is very uncommon to see in mainstream synths, for sure.EdGrip wrote: ↑22 Sep 2017Props just retweeted this tweet:
"@PropellerheadSW #Reason10 huge update eta 25/10 : spotted three potent letters; KBD = #AFX style #microtuning > v rare in V synths + DAWs https://t.co/B6c96n3CyP
Dunno if that means anything to anyone.
EDIT: I should add that the KBD in question is on a screenshot of Europa's osc.
Another thing people might not've realised is that Reason got a .x update today.
Reason 9.5.2 / Reason Essentials 9.5.2 Release Notes
Reason 9.5.2 and Reason Essentials 9.5.2 are now compatible with macOS High Sierra
Improved file system handling
(Mac) Moved location of cache files for plugin screenshots, plugin registry and more
Improved plugin window focus handling on Windows, removed associated menu option
Fixed an issue with time signatures when importing MIDI
Fixed an issue that would cause Maschine to not play the first note in the sequencer
Fixed an issue where a VST GUI could sometimes disappear
Optimized reading of Remote map files
Made plugin window open button remotable, "Proxy Open Plugin Window"
Small changes, BUT, it shows that work is ongoing on the core program. So, interesting times ahead I think...
**Edit: in fact, quite a significant update in that it appears to rectify the problem some VSTs had where menus wouldn't work unless you changed the VST keyboard focus option. That option is now gone and the plugins seem to just work as they ought to now. Noice!
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ltbrunt00 wrote: ↑22 Sep 2017I'm not complaining, a lot of us will be upgrading including myself.
Layers seemed like it should be packaged with R10.
All I want right now is VST optimization and stability fixes. Also was hoping for some new player type devices. Maybe R10 isn't the Milestone Version. Maybe that will come next year. I said it before Reason 9.5 IMO was an epic release and could have been called R10.
I guarantee you Layers was supposed to be in this 10 update. If that was the case it was very foolish decision taking it out of 10 and releasing it standalone (it's very weak on its own imo) as a new device packaged with the other new devices 10 may be worth an update though.
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That is the best part! Probably the most requested feature I sent a request myself I'm sure others did too.chimp_spanner wrote: ↑22 Sep 2017
Made plugin window open button remotable, "Proxy Open Plugin Window"
Small changes, BUT, it shows that work is ongoing on the core program. So, interesting times ahead I think...
It is not too much of an ask for people or things to be the best version of itself!
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at this rate my next upgrade will be Reason 12
and Reason 12 will launch in 18 mos
I went Reason 1...2.5...4...8
it's only logical...maybe by then VST performance will be stellar
can the subscription trend be far away? Although, it seems the rent is high enough
and Reason 12 will launch in 18 mos
I went Reason 1...2.5...4...8
it's only logical...maybe by then VST performance will be stellar
can the subscription trend be far away? Although, it seems the rent is high enough
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TWO things i want most... more intuitive sequencer with better flow like painting on blank canvas with real paint (something that is better than other daws have) and vector scalable gui! i was ready to upgrade when i hear the news but i think i'll wait again :/ (yeah i want a real paint program in reason )
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At this rate of development we'll see 10.X half a year after this. Which'll be a workflow oriented update again.
My guess is they need more time for things like the HD GUI overhaul and this is to keep people occupied for a while - plus it caters to the people who've been wanting new stock devices for a long time.
My guess is they need more time for things like the HD GUI overhaul and this is to keep people occupied for a while - plus it caters to the people who've been wanting new stock devices for a long time.
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That is completely different than a software update. If you bought an 8k ready TV and all that was missing was some lines of code to make true 8k work properly how would you feel about having to pay for it?!
It is not too much of an ask for people or things to be the best version of itself!
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Nice update if that is what we needed, but I have to agree that it seems Propellerhead have now stopped taking users into consideration. I did expect big things from R-X and once again the Swedes had the earplugs in so as not to hear us. So frustrating!
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Would you pay for an update that would add Vector or is that pushing it too far.Exowildebeest wrote: ↑22 Sep 2017At this rate of development we'll see 10.X half a year after this. Which'll be a workflow oriented update again.
My guess is they need more time for things like the HD GUI overhaul and this is to keep people occupied for a while - plus it caters to the people who've been wanting new stock devices for a long time.
It is not too much of an ask for people or things to be the best version of itself!
Ok I'm gonna write this before watching the full video.
In R10 what I want to see is serious upgrades to the Mixer, sequencer, Midi editing ,audio editing windows, browser with real time time-stretch and sync with host BPM.
Oh....yea of course new devices. Ok now let's see the full video.
In R10 what I want to see is serious upgrades to the Mixer, sequencer, Midi editing ,audio editing windows, browser with real time time-stretch and sync with host BPM.
Oh....yea of course new devices. Ok now let's see the full video.
My opinion is that Propellerhead REASON needs a complete rewrite!
P.S: people should stop saying "No it won't happen" when referring to a complete rewrite of REASON. I have 3 letters for ya....VST
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P.S: people should stop saying "No it won't happen" when referring to a complete rewrite of REASON. I have 3 letters for ya....VST
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Since you nearly doubled the versions, you need to come back on R16.syncanonymous wrote: ↑22 Sep 2017at this rate my next upgrade will be Reason 12
and Reason 12 will launch in 18 mos
I went Reason 1...2.5...4...8
it's only logical...maybe by then VST performance will be stellar
can the subscription trend be far away? Although, it seems the rent is high enough
Reason12, Win10
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That's a shame. You should spend some time with them!deepndark wrote: ↑22 Sep 2017SKIP...EnochLight wrote: ↑22 Sep 2017
While Synchronous, Matrix, Alligator, and Players Dual Arp all carry some feature parity, each one couldn't be more different when it comes down to exactly what they do. You of all people should know this, having been around for some time!? I mean, unless you never really spent any time using each one??
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To all the snowflakes who are pissed off their most wanted feature isn't included - relax! PH can't cater to all of us at once. We got VST in 9.5, new devices in 10 and I'm pretty sure the future versions will have new features too...
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Watch the video and try not to keep your mouth open with shear shock and horror.pjeudy wrote: ↑22 Sep 2017Ok I'm gonna write this before watching the full video.
In R10 what I want to see is serious upgrades to the Mixer, sequencer, Midi editing ,audio editing windows, browser with real time time-stretch and sync with host BPM.
Oh....yea of course new devices. Ok now let's see the full video.
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