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13 Jul 2017

stevan wrote:
13 Jul 2017
since 9.5.1 I experience a really ugly graphic/gui crackling, after opening a new song or the Reason app itself . The screen is for 500 milliseconds totally defragmented . Looks like a digital Pollock picture ... bad :( How can I go back to 9.5 ? :puf_unhappy:

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Whoa. That sounds really bad.
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15 Jul 2017

Hyperthreading helps a lot!

Reason 8 benchmark song without HT: 8 seconds
Reason 8 benchmark song with HT: 28 seconds :D :D :D :D :D

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15 Jul 2017

Just tested it once so far, in Rewire, and got pops & cracks right from the start. I disabled hyper-threading and it ran better-ish.

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Thank you, Propellerhead for fixing Reason on Mac! (for me at least)... sux some of you are still having problems. I've been very busy lately but after updating and switching back to normal (high resolution, 128 samples, etc.), there are zero issues. I'm so happy!
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Last Alternative wrote:
15 Jul 2017
Thank you, Propellerhead for fixing Reason on Mac! (for me at least)... sux some of you are still having problems. I've been very busy lately but after updating and switching back to normal (high resolution, 128 samples, etc.), there are zero issues. I'm so happy!
Given the problems you were having that's the best news I've heard all day.

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16 Jul 2017

We,l I won't be upgrading anytime soon, this scared me and I'm staying put with 9.5.

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Last Alternative wrote:
15 Jul 2017
Thank you, Propellerhead for fixing Reason on Mac! (for me at least)... sux some of you are still having problems. I've been very busy lately but after updating and switching back to normal (high resolution, 128 samples, etc.), there are zero issues. I'm so happy!
Good to hear that!

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16 Jul 2017

Carly(Poohbear) wrote:
13 Jul 2017
stevan wrote:
13 Jul 2017
since 9.5.1 I experience a really ugly graphic/gui crackling, after opening a new song or the Reason app itself . The screen is for 500 milliseconds totally defragmented . Looks like a digital Pollock picture ... bad :( How can I go back to 9.5 ? :puf_unhappy:

iMac 10.11 Balance
You can install 9.5 from here https://www.propellerheads.se/download/reason95/
Nope, if I try downloading 9.5 it's still 9.5.1.

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Carly(Poohbear) wrote:
13 Jul 2017


You can install 9.5 from here https://www.propellerheads.se/download/reason95/
Nope, if I try downloading 9.5 it's still 9.5.1.
It works if you copy the download link from the cited page and replace the "951" by "950":

Here's an example for Mac without Soundbanks:

http://cdn.propellerheads.se/Reason9/Re ... dbanks.dmg

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16 Jul 2017

One hyperthreading example scenario:

One instance of FM4 (known hog) driven by a PSQ1684. (Release time set fairly high on FM4's Operator envelopes adding to hoggishness.)

Hyperthreading ON: Reason consuming ~58% CPU. (Snap, crackle, pop.)
Hyperthreading OFF: Reason consuming ~22% CPU.

i7-3770; 8GB RAM

I think that since I tend to hook up things serially, I will leave it off in most cases.
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16 Jul 2017

I think it would be good if HT was disabled by default.
And also, since HT performance is project specific, wouldn't it be great if the HT settings were as well?

Finally, there is some knowledge around what types of projects perform well/bad.
It would be great to have an Automatic option for HT that would analyze the project and set HT on/off based on that (unless the user has forced a HT setting for that specific project)

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16 Jul 2017

After spending more time in Reason since updating, I am still happy to report no audio or dsp issues, however, scrolling around goes very slow and my Apple magic mouse 2 keeps jerking around when I'm drawing beats and notes in the sequencer, no matter how careful I am being. This is not affecting audio but is very unfortunate. It's already time for 9.5.2
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18 Jul 2017

madmacman wrote:
16 Jul 2017
stevan wrote:
16 Jul 2017


Nope, if I try downloading 9.5 it's still 9.5.1.
It works if you copy the download link from the cited page and replace the "951" by "950":

Here's an example for Mac without Soundbanks:

http://cdn.propellerheads.se/Reason9/Re ... dbanks.dmg
OK, it worked ... thanx man :-) I'm now in 9.5 again and the flurry screen problem is gone ... very sad, cause love that new drag'n'drop function ...

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21 Jul 2017

Last Alternative wrote:
16 Jul 2017
After spending more time in Reason since updating, I am still happy to report no audio or dsp issues, however, scrolling around goes very slow and my Apple magic mouse 2 keeps jerking around when I'm drawing beats and notes in the sequencer, no matter how careful I am being. This is not affecting audio but is very unfortunate. It's already time for 9.5.2
maybe the same gui problem I experienced ... something is wrong with the graphic behaviour ... hopefully they iron it out asap :?

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Last Alternative wrote:
15 Jul 2017
Thank you, Propellerhead for fixing Reason on Mac! (for me at least)... sux some of you are still having problems. I've been very busy lately but after updating and switching back to normal (high resolution, 128 samples, etc.), there are zero issues. I'm so happy!
Awesome; that's great to hear. And despite your mouse/scrolling issue still present, maybe consider updating your rant thread title with "FIXED" to reflect your main issue being addressed?

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Yeah audio issues are gone for me but there's a huge graphics delay when scrolling around anywhere and when drawing notes. It's also taking quite some time to load patches which makes workflow pretty miserable. Very annoying. Just emailed PH. I hope you guys do too.
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23 Jul 2017

Last Alternative wrote:
23 Jul 2017
Yeah audio issues are gone for me but there's a huge graphics delay when scrolling around anywhere and when drawing notes. It's also taking quite some time to load patches which makes workflow pretty miserable. Very annoying. Just emailed PH. I hope you guys do too.
Iv'e noticed screen tearing when scrolling down the rack on Windows. Its very subtle though very hard to see it. Iv'e not reported it because I have not been able to capture it. I think it might have something to do with the Aero theme.
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AttenuationHz wrote:
23 Jul 2017
Last Alternative wrote:
23 Jul 2017
Yeah audio issues are gone for me but there's a huge graphics delay when scrolling around anywhere and when drawing notes. It's also taking quite some time to load patches which makes workflow pretty miserable. Very annoying. Just emailed PH. I hope you guys do too.
Iv'e noticed screen tearing when scrolling down the rack on Windows. Its very subtle though very hard to see it. Iv'e not reported it because I have not been able to capture it. I think it might have something to do with the Aero theme.
Do you still get it with hyperthreading turned off?

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23 Jul 2017

Carly(Poohbear) wrote:
23 Jul 2017
AttenuationHz wrote:
23 Jul 2017


Iv'e noticed screen tearing when scrolling down the rack on Windows. Its very subtle though very hard to see it. Iv'e not reported it because I have not been able to capture it. I think it might have something to do with the Aero theme.
Do you still get it with hyperthreading turned off?
Have not tried next time I notice it I'll turn HT off and see if it happens. But it is hard to replicate in any case and it only happens in the rack. I'll see it but then when I try to make it happen again it does not.
It is not too much of an ask for people or things to be the best version of itself!

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Carly(Poohbear) wrote:
23 Jul 2017
AttenuationHz wrote:
23 Jul 2017


Iv'e noticed screen tearing when scrolling down the rack on Windows. Its very subtle though very hard to see it. Iv'e not reported it because I have not been able to capture it. I think it might have something to do with the Aero theme.
Do you still get it with hyperthreading turned off?

Yeah it does still happen with HT turned off. I tried to record a gif of it but it was not present in the recording. OBS disables Areo (so no way to record it) and I just tested it out and can confirm it only happens when aero is enabled. Guess I'll just have to live with it can't deal without Aero for too long.
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03 Aug 2017

Having issues too since 9.5.1. On iMac 3.5GHz I7 and usin UAD Apollo.
I plan on going back to 9.5 if this persists.

Is there any indication on when this will be resolved?
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03 Aug 2017

npinero1 wrote:
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Having issues too since 9.5.1. On iMac 3.5GHz I7 and usin UAD Apollo.
I plan on going back to 9.5 if this persists.

Is there any indication on when this will be resolved?
Propellerhead devs are pretty much all on seasonal vacations until the middle/end of August, so i wouldn't count on anything being addressed until after that. And if those who are having trouble aren't actually contacting Propellerhead tech support and submitting actual tickets, I wouldn't expect it to be fixed at all.
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EnochLight wrote:
03 Aug 2017
npinero1 wrote:
03 Aug 2017
Having issues too since 9.5.1. On iMac 3.5GHz I7 and usin UAD Apollo.
I plan on going back to 9.5 if this persists.

Is there any indication on when this will be resolved?
Propellerhead devs are pretty much all on seasonal vacations until the middle/end of August, so i wouldn't count on anything being addressed until after that. And if those who are having trouble aren't actually contacting Propellerhead tech support and submitting actual tickets, I wouldn't expect it to be fixed at all.
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04 Aug 2017

I turned off hyperthreading and everything is working again. Too bad, I would have liked a boost.
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npinero1 wrote:
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I turned off hyperthreading and everything is working again. Too bad, I would have liked a boost.
Something to note: Hyperthreading in Reason (as of this new setting) won't be helpful/noticeable for most unless your project is large, and effects/instruments are spread out over multiple mixer channels in parallel. If you've got smaller projects or just some Combi that are massive, it probably won't help much - if at all.
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