House Kick Drum Creation

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27 Aug 2015

Hi!

Was wondering if anyone could give me some tips on making a nice house kick drum on Reason. Not a 808 sub kind of kick though with a long tail or release. Just a nice thuddy, yet at the same time soft kinda kick drum if that makes sense.

I just you tubed some progressive house and found this one:-



Maybe a bit like that. Can this be done from scratch? I'm thinking maybe Malstrom?

Thanks!
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27 Aug 2015

For me what works is thor plus a lot of patience for tweaking envelopes plus EQ.

Try this combi:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dkpvg0ygjcs7l ... X.cmb?dl=0

There is a matrix which engage 1/4 note gate

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27 Aug 2015

Kong is your friend all the way. Just use the Tone insert and resist the urge to set the initial Pitch too low.

Start with something like 20 then add Bend and Speed to taste. Note how Attack and Decay really affect the tone and feel of the sound. It's a skill you won't regret practicing.

http://benedictroffmarsh.com/2013/07/28 ... difficult/

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27 Aug 2015

You'd be surprised but that house kick is pretty similar to an acoustic bass drum kick. If you listen, there is a lot of hi-freq action (snap) that makes it cut through. The low freqs are not as bold as you think. I'm no expert but if you take a listen to my song on soundcloud "Not in my House" I go between a house like kick (which admittedly does have a sine wave sub at about 60Hz with short decay) and a 'metal' drum beat and the transition isn't that apparent.

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History seems to say all House was made with 808 and 909 but in reality a lot was Samples, some of which were processed Analog sounds (like I did in Red for 70) and others processed Acoustic sounds.

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27 Aug 2015

If you're not wanting to take the Leftwing & Kody route (sampled kicks, layered sampled kicks) then Factory Bank, Thor Patches (drum/percussion) are a good pallette to start from.

If you want a drum synth, Rob Papen has the BBD Kickdrum/Bass Drum and Percussion Synth. It comes with a lot of patches as well.

You'd be surprised to find a lot of producers in any house genre still sample old House Records. If you're wanting a techno/electro sounding kick, you can start with a kick drum you like from the factory and manipulate it inside KONG. From there you can open a Synth Drum on another Kong Pad and tweak a white noise to layer in front on top of Kick sample.

So yeah
Factory Stock Kong
Factory Stock Thor are great places to start experimenting.

For a more "How do you make this sound"
ALWAYS SEARCH YOUTUBE!

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27 Aug 2015

Benedict wrote:History seems to say all House was made with 808 and 909 but in reality a lot was Samples, some of which were processed Analog sounds (like I did in Red for 70) and others processed Acoustic sounds.

:)
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I've always loved the hats from the 909.

Roland had the acid house/techno market almost cornered.

I would say
808, 909, 606, 707, Dr 55, Dr110, SH-101
Linn-Drum
Space Drum
Yamaha rx11, An1x, DX7
Moog Voyager
Jomox 999
last but not least MPC

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27 Aug 2015

Creativemind wrote:Hi!

Was wondering if anyone could give me some tips on making a nice house kick drum on Reason. Not a 808 sub kind of kick though with a long tail or release. Just a nice thuddy, yet at the same time soft kinda kick drum if that makes sense.

I just you tubed some progressive house and found this one:-



Maybe a bit like that. Can this be done from scratch? I'm thinking maybe Malstrom?

Thanks!
YouTube Search Metric/Alex Metric, Morgan Page.
They offer some advice of Kick Drums, maybe futuremusicmagazine.

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27 Aug 2015

freeQlow wrote:
YouTube Search Metric/Alex Metric, Morgan Page.
They offer some advice of Kick Drums, maybe futuremusicmagazine.
Any links? couldn't really find anything.
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freeQlow
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27 Aug 2015

Here is my personal "Reason Playlist" I have a lot of sidechain, pattern sequencer, deep Kong, deep Thor, House Tutorials "by others" 91 videos in all.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL ... wEjY6cSOxX
Let me know if the link is troublesome.


Watch "#producerPOV - Reason - Deep Underground House" on YouTube
#producerPOV - Reason - Deep Underground House:


ANOTHER AWESOME KICK vs BASS TUTORIAL
https://youtu.be/ZEUgIK7W20E

Also, if you're new to making beats, that's cool or even if you're not.... you still need to learn how things work.

Venture out and leave reason out of your searches. You can learn a great deal from other DAW and how to videos as well.

Reason Expert is a great channel to subscribe to as is ADSR, POINT BLANK, BERKELEE....

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27 Aug 2015

freeQlow, thanks for sharing your YouTube list, bloody awesome of you to do that :) Some cracker must views in there.

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freeQlow
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28 Aug 2015

ebop wrote:freeQlow, thanks for sharing your YouTube list, bloody awesome of you to do that :) Some cracker must views in there.
No problem mate.

I may come across crazy at times, I may be defensive or offended but one thing is certain. I'm here to help!

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freeQlow
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28 Aug 2015

https://www.samplemagic.com/journal/201 ... rum-beats/

Forgot I bookmarked this on my phone a while back.

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