CV question

[Jagwah]

I don't know why this is so difficult but what I do know is that I have had enough of trying to work it out!

I want to send a gate signal from Euclid (or Matrix) through Thor so I can shape the gate with Thor's envelope. It just doesn't work as it should, as soon as the release on Thor's global envelope is pushed up a little the gate stays on and in general the attack and sustain do not function as I expect them too.

Maybe I am routing the gate incorrectly but I have tried routing it different ways and still it performs in an unexpected way.

Can someone please tell me how to shape a gate signal with an envelope in Thor, I may be cabling it incorrectly or programming the matrix incorrectly but like I said I have tried different ways already. Is there another device for envelope shaping a CV gate signal besides Charlotte?


Thanks.

[Benedict]

Hi Jag

I think you haven't gotten the core idea of a Gate being On or Off, with no in-between states. Most Gates trigger as the CV passes from 0 to any other value. Think pure Square Wave.

You need a Gate to Trigger something like an Envelope then use the Env CV signal to control what needs enveloping with the smoothly changing CV, e.g.:

Matrix Gate Out > Thor CV 1 In
Thor CV 1 In > 100 > Global Env Gate
Global Env > 100 > CV Out 1
CV Out 1 > Subtractor Filter CV In

(of course you could just also wire Matrix Gate Out to Thor Gate In as that will also trigger Envelopes)

[Gaja]

Would it be possible to achieve your desired effect using the matrix' curve function? That way you might be able to leave out Thor alltogether.

[Benedict]

Matrix Curve could be used to make an Env shape but it would be "lumpy"

[Jagwah]

OK it was indeed a misunderstanding of gate signals and thanks to adq and eauhm in the Reason Chat chat room I now understand where I was going wrong -

At the GATE IN stage of any device it simply receives an on / off state only, what I wanted was to send a smoothed (enveloped) signal at that point and that's not possible, it can almost always be done via internal envelope after this point. This explains why I have struggled with Charlotte so much.


Thanks everyone for your input, much appreciated.