Balance versus USB 3 ?

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Bonkhead
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17 Jul 2015

Hi,

It is known that the Propellerhead Balance audio card can have problems when used on a usb 3 port.
How many of you are using Balance on usb3 without a problem ?

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EnochLight
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17 Jul 2015

Bonkhead wrote:Hi,

It is known that the Propellerhead Balance audio card can have problems when used on a usb 3 port.
How many of you are using Balance on usb3 without a problem ?
On Windows 7, USB 3 and Balance doesn't work the vast majority of the time. In Windows 8, however, I find that Balance usually works (YMMV). That said, I stick to my USB 2.0 ports since that's what it was manufactured to support.

Let a Propellerhead himself explain it best:

http://www.reasontalk.com/viewtopic.php ... 48#p212548
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Arsenic
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17 Jul 2015

I've had Balance working on USB3 on Windows 8 without any issue whatsoever. Unfortunately, under Windows 7 I had zero success.

This post by Wook is from a thread where he was having problems with Windows 7 - He installed Windows 8 and everything worked as expected
http://www.reasontalk.com/viewtopic.php ... 25#p212320

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Kazz
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17 Jul 2015

It's always been fine for me on Macs with USB 3, although the hub it's plugged into right now seems to be making it drop intermittently. I need to move it back to one of the computer's ports.

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28 Jul 2015

I'm having this Win7/USB 3.0 issue with Balance. It's a brand new HP laptop. I'm going to try to turn off USB 3.0 in the BIOS tonight. Other than that, or upgrading Windows, anyone have a solution?

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Bigsby wrote:I'm having this Win7/USB 3.0 issue with Balance. It's a brand new HP laptop. I'm going to try to turn off USB 3.0 in the BIOS tonight. Other than that, or upgrading Windows, anyone have a solution?
Windows 7 doesn't support USB 3.0; you need Windows 8 for native support. If it's a brand new laptop, you should get Windows 10 free - which drops tomorrow. Windows 10 also supports USB 3.0, and Balance works fine on Windows 10 (at least it does on my machine).

Other than that, isn't there a USB 2.0 port on your laptop?
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28 Jul 2015

It's a work laptop. They allow us to install stuff for personal use, but we'll be stuck on Win7 for a while. I turned off USB3.0 in the BIOS and it works fine now. No dedicated USB 2.0 ports.

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Bigsby wrote:I turned off USB3.0 in the BIOS and it works fine now. No dedicated USB 2.0 ports.
Awesome; enjoy! :thumbs_up:
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29 Jul 2015

Bigsby wrote:It's a work laptop. They allow us to install stuff for personal use, but we'll be stuck on Win7 for a while. I turned off USB3.0 in the BIOS and it works fine now. No dedicated USB 2.0 ports.
Get a second hard drive for it. That's what I did! ;)
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30 Jul 2015

EnochLight wrote:
Bigsby wrote:I'm having this Win7/USB 3.0 issue with Balance. It's a brand new HP laptop. I'm going to try to turn off USB 3.0 in the BIOS tonight. Other than that, or upgrading Windows, anyone have a solution?
Windows 7 doesn't support USB 3.0; you need Windows 8 for native support. If it's a brand new laptop, you should get Windows 10 free - which drops tomorrow. Windows 10 also supports USB 3.0, and Balance works fine on Windows 10 (at least it does on my machine).

Other than that, isn't there a USB 2.0 port on your laptop?
Wrong.Windows 7 does not have built-in USB 3.0 support but after you install official drivers from manufacturer's site they work fine.

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kitekrazy wrote:
EnochLight wrote:
Bigsby wrote:I'm having this Win7/USB 3.0 issue with Balance. It's a brand new HP laptop. I'm going to try to turn off USB 3.0 in the BIOS tonight. Other than that, or upgrading Windows, anyone have a solution?
Windows 7 doesn't support USB 3.0; you need Windows 8 for native support. If it's a brand new laptop, you should get Windows 10 free - which drops tomorrow. Windows 10 also supports USB 3.0, and Balance works fine on Windows 10 (at least it does on my machine).

Other than that, isn't there a USB 2.0 port on your laptop?
Wrong.Windows 7 does not have built-in USB 3.0 support but after you install official drivers from manufacturer's site they work fine.
Actually, not everything is fine. To be clear, we are talking about USB 3.0 and Balance on Windows 7. Many 3rd party USB 3.0 drivers simply work like shit on Windows 7, as they are efforts made by individual hardware manufacturers and consultants thereof. In other words, YMMV. Propellerhead themselves have gone on record stating that Balance won't work on USB 3.0 and Windows 7 for this very reason.

That said, great to see you got yours to work on USB 3.0 and Windows 7, though! There are always "exceptions to the rule".
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