motuscott wrote:That escalated quickly.
And was edited quickly.
haha yhea I tryed to RE-think the Reason's
motuscott wrote:That escalated quickly.
And was edited quickly.
sorry to ear this thread hurt your feelings but I am also kind of sick of peoples complaining about peoples complaining ....Janvier wrote:I don't know why Im reading this shitty thread ! Im piss of people complaining about what they don't fuckin' have. Focus on what you already have instead, your everyday life will become better!! If you are not happy with what you have then shut up and fuckin' go away.
I think the Prop's wouldn't like to compete with the RE developers and make a device that's would make any RE obsolete. I suspect core Reason devices have a performance advantage compared to RE:s.Last Alternative wrote:I guess the biggest mistake(s), I would say, is that ever since REs, PH has virtually abandoned any need or desire for innovation, aside from a few things. Now it seems they feel we should shut up and deal with CPU chomping 3rd party stuff with bugs (many of which are never resolved) that hold no weight compared to what PH could make and the fact that everything PH used to make were stock tools and now get off on charging up the butt, plus the fact that they have completely abandoned what they're all about.. or were all about- being an affordable fun system. And I guess they're totally cool leaving out important standard things like advanced audio editing, crossfade, a simple comprehensible PH brand STOCK multi-band compressor. Nah- who needs that anyway..
The ratio of features : price is a sad, sad boring letdown now. We should be seeing R9 this year maybe and that will determine if I stay or go.
Ecopro wrote:You guys need to chill, really. Tools can only be as good as the tool bearer.
Well you probably wouldn't be happy with reading other folk's feature suggestions either. But there's a solution if you're tired of reading stuff like this - don't read or post in this thread!Janvier wrote:I don't know why Im reading this shitty thread ! Im piss of people complaining about what they don't fuckin' have. Focus on what you already have instead, your everyday life will become better!! If you are not happy with what you have then shut up and fuckin' go away.
Actually, in a some way, you are telling me to shut up and go away. Its only that you do it in a gentle and diplomatic manner haha !!selig wrote:
Well you probably wouldn't be happy with reading other folk's feature suggestions either. But there's a solution if you're tired of reading stuff like this - don't read or post in this thread!
I'm sure you wouldn't like being told to shut up and go away, and I'd venture a guess no one else does either - chill!
selig wrote:
Well you probably wouldn't be happy with reading other folk's feature suggestions either. But there's a solution if you're tired of reading stuff like this - don't read or post in this thread!
I'm sure you wouldn't like being told to shut up and go away, and I'd venture a guess no one else does either - chill!
Actually, as a moderator I'm reminding you to follow the rules or be banned. Your choice.Janvier wrote:
Actually, in a some way, you are telling me to shut up and go away. Its only that you do it in a gentle and diplomatic manner haha !!
Yesterday, it was fullmoon and I was a werewolve... this is why I answer something with such a violence lol.
Im really chill about this :s0826:
Ecopro wrote:You guys need to chill, really. Tools can only be as good as the tool bearer.
I don't know...there's always been something special with Reason. I've tried others DAWs, and have other tools at my disposal, but I keep coming back to Reason.CharlyCharlzz wrote:
or the tool maker ....
Ecopro wrote:You guys need to chill, really. Tools can only be as good as the tool bearer.
CharlyCharlzz wrote:
or the tool maker ....
Ecopro wrote:
I don't know...there's always been something special with Reason. I've tried others DAWs, and have other tools at my disposal, but I keep coming back to Reason.
I feel the tool maker has done enough for us to get our asses out-the-box to make some great music with it. So
Ecopro wrote:we have to put a little more effort!...
yes I totaly agree , I get troubles mixing in Reason but only because I add more and more to get the sound and then got to deal with all the freqs and volumes .Ecopro wrote:to get a fat sound going! ... that's actually how we learn more about synthesis, about the tools, and how to get that sound we're ultimately after. I feel that a lot of Reason users are actually more hands-on, more technical if you will. Reason can be as deep and complex as you want it to be, thanks to CV and the infinite combinations of routing cables. It can also be as simple as laying down ideas, a simple melody maker machine.
Use your tools to your advantage! - Live and prosper. \m/
Ecopro wrote:You guys need to chill, really. Tools can only be as good as the tool bearer.
Or....how about both?CharlyCharlzz wrote:
or the tool maker ....
Last Alternative wrote:Also, they are indeed responsible for the prices. Maybe I'm ignorant on how taxes work in Sweden but charging developers 30% of earnings is insane and causes the prices to be so high.
I also think the 30% is fair for what is on offer. My only issue with RE development is there's no real sustainable "main income" in it as the relative user base is too small. This is AFAIK of course, but even your recent sale after never doing one till now and actually sort of being against the idea, tells me that even your superb RE's are not selling in the numbers you would hope. I am not prying there nor expect an answer btw, just a gut feeling of my own. I hope i am way wrong. Cheersselig wrote:
Two things:
The Propellerheads have no control over the prices developers set, and that 30% you mention is not taxes. What you CAN say is that the associated development costs contribute to the cost of the final product. In this case those costs are taken out of your income stream. In other cases you pay for these things up front. I've done the math and I'm extremely happy with the 30% deduction and feel it's well worth the price IMO!
What costs?
Add up the costs for building and maintaining an online store with a very high visibility factor (lots of traffic because there are lots of products, something difficult for an indy developer to pull off). Also add the developer costs for un-cracked copy protection like iLok (you'd likely be surprised about this one cost alone!). Don't forget to add the cost of all the developer tools etc. Throw in the cost for marketing. Don't forget tech support (for both developers and end users) - that's not free! And finally, factor in the developer's cost of identifying, researching, and maintaining all of these systems factoring in the extra pain in the ass when something's not going right (like it is right now for some users - I'd hate to be responsible for MY system giving folks this kinds of problems).
And not forgetting that many if not most of these expenses must come out of pocket BEFORE there is an income stream at all, and you begin to understand why a developer such as myself would be more than happy to give 30% to the Props! I can't provide any numbers, but it's likely this cost is allowing LOWER prices since (among other things) it's a fixed cost that's more easy to account for.
That's my take, anyway.
In case you don't already know, you can type in values for any automatable parameters. If you create an automation lane, you can double click the default value slider and enter a value (you can then delete the automation lane).chimp_spanner wrote: • No numerical entry. Everything has to be done with knobs. PITA when you're trying to land on an exact value
chimp_spanner wrote: • No numerical entry. Everything has to be done with knobs. PITA when you're trying to land on an exact value
Pepin wrote:
In case you don't already know, you can type in values for any automatable parameters. If you create an automation lane, you can double click the default value slider and enter a value (you can then delete the automation lane).
this is why I love threads like this , most new cool features (that been requested over and over) are there but nobody knows it .Pepin wrote:
Yes, very annoying...still, after 5 1/2 years... :frown:muffins4all wrote:the "drag and drop/import a MIDI file, and it creates an ID8 and puts it on that track" thing
muffins4all wrote:the "drag and drop/import a MIDI file, and it creates an ID8 and puts it on that track" thing
and changes the tempo of the song!stratatonic wrote: Yes, very annoying...still, after 5 1/2 years... :frown:
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 35 guests