2nd Prediction on Propellerhead Software

[EnochLight]

Usually the biggest mistake is to buy hardware with the label of a software developer.

Oh I don't know - they may have cancelled their hardware division, but I still use Balance.  Fantastic 2-channel interface with great Reason integration.  It certainly wasn't a mistake for me, anyway!  

[Reason101]

Why say in 7 minutes what can be said in a single image? From my book (http://www.reason101.net/shop):

"The

only

gripe"?  Are you sure you don't want to add to that?  

 

I could, but then I'd be taking your bait, Dylan. And I'll pass on that.

[EnochLight]

I could, but then I'd be taking your bait, Brent. And I'll pass on that.

Err.. it was a joke - sorry.  Wasn't baiting you, man.   :frown:  And - who's Brent?  I'm Dylan.  

[Reason101]

I could, but then I'd be taking your bait, Brent. And I'll pass on that.

Err.. it was a joke - sorry.  Wasn't baiting you, man.   :frown:  And - who's Brent?  I'm Dylan.  

No need for an apology. I wasn't sore about it. Now my turn to apologize. Sorry I called you Brent, Dylan. :s0801:

[Gaja]

I could, but then I'd be taking your bait, Brent. And I'll pass on that.

Err.. it was a joke - sorry.  Wasn't baiting you, man.   :frown:  And - who's Brent?  I'm Dylan.  

No need for an apology. I wasn't sore about it. Now my turn to apologize. Sorry I called you Brent, Dylan. :s0801:

I always thought Lunesis was Brent...

[bepemixer]

To all the producers who are convinced of the mobile world, you make me a perfect reproduction of a classical symphony 64 instruments level variables single note? when I see this I can say that the mobile is suitable.
Props advisor to focus on the Score Editor minimal because the music and not only made by Groove Step and harmony but also by following the rules even in shape.
An enthusiastic user of the only music software ANY.

With Props thinking to Reason, but it's time to evolve not going to look for the musician, but to work for the language he knows, the musical score.
bepemixer
http://www.reasoninitaliano.eu

[jappe]

In think Props will merge with some company out there.
Lets try to guess what company.

We know that they are really pushing Discover.
We (oh well...I...) also know that it's almost useless for collaboration in its current state due to lack of absolutely core functionality like rating/comment/search functionality.
==>They are merging with some company with some product that will provide the missing core functionality. A company that really don't need PUF btw.

[KEVMOVE02]

So how did the first prediction play out? Is the second one being fulfilled right before our eyes? Why are we so fascinated with predictions (and fortune telling and soothsaying, prophets and prognosticators)? Most importantly, why do the screws keep falling out of my system rack?

[gak]

I predict that there will be more predictions that may or may not come true.

[Jagwah]

When it really comes down to it those Swedes are pretty smart.

[EnochLight]

To all the producers who are convinced of the mobile world, you make me a perfect reproduction of a classical symphony 64 instruments level variables single note? when I see this I can say that the mobile is suitable.

Thread resurrection - yay!

Anyway, mobile is completely suitable for a lot of things - audio production included. That said, how much you can get done may vary depending on what you need to get done. From the looks of things, reproducing a classical symphony 64 instruments level variables single note might be challenging in the mobile sector.. but recording multiple channels of audio, adding effects, doing light to deep audio editing, recording vocals, etc.. complete synth-in-a-box studios... all of this has been available in the mobile sector for years.

All this said, I do find the experience much better on iOS devices (read: iPhone and iPad). With Android or Windows Phone, YMMV. There's still plenty out there for those platforms, though.

[eusti]

Well, I stated it before, but here we go: I think being able to make music while being mobile is fabulous...
It would be great if projects were movable (at least in parts) between the platforms in sensible ways...
So, for instance, I want to be able to get the midi information of what I did on the run (or on the train) into Reason easily...
But I find different tools lend themselves to different approaches and therefore different tunes...

D.

[avasopht]

Hmm, haven't Propellerhead DEVELOPED more new devices per year since Rack Extensions than EVER before? So to suggest they are no longer focused on developing the reason platform is ludicrous at best.

[madmacman]

So, for instance, I want to be able to get the midi information of what I did on the run (or on the train) into Reason easily...

Unfortunately, competition is way ahead in this respect. Take Cubasis or Garageband for iPad: moving ideas (or field recordings) to their desktop counterpart (Cubase or Garageband/Logic) is a no-brainer.

[eusti]

So, for instance, I want to be able to get the midi information of what I did on the run (or on the train) into Reason easily...

Unfortunately, competition is way ahead in this respect. Take Cubasis or Garageband for iPad: moving ideas (or field recordings) to their desktop counterpart (Cubase or Garageband/Logic) is a no-brainer.

I haven't tried Cubasis, but if Garageband for the iPhone is similar to the iPad version, I have to say the integration is ok, not great...
I find it somewhat cumbersome to sync the phone and find the file, etc... I think this could be streamlined...
As well, there is only a weird workaround for exporting midi from the desktop version of Garageband... I mean it's workable and definitely ahead of the prop's offering, but I feel it could be better!

D.

[madmacman]

As well, there is only a weird workaround for exporting midi from the desktop version of Garageband... I mean it's workable and definitely ahead of the prop's offering, but I feel it could be better!

True. As soon as you try to "leave" the walled garden of each manufacturer, you are somewhat lost. And even exporting Midi from desktop Garageband recently lost an option with the move to 64bit (and the MidiO plugin not working any more). So, yes: I agree with you. There's much room for improvement in every respect.

[EnochLight]

Hmm, haven't Propellerhead DEVELOPED more new devices per year since Rack Extensions than EVER before? So to suggest they are no longer focused on developing the reason platform is ludicrous at best.

The entire purpose of this thread was based on, well - baseless conspiracy theories. The OP is "predicting" that Propellerhead will be bought by another company, and that they only focus on mobile apps now.

There's no evidence to support either of his predictions, as far as I can see.

Interesting that the OP began this thread by saying "PH is only focused on the current lucrative mobile toys fad and the trendy subcultures instead of also refining the tools for serious seasoned producers," yet there's been like.. what - two (2) point updates to Reason since this thread began, complete with new features? He seems to have taken a liking to Discover lately, though.

[joeyluck]

Err.. it was a joke - sorry.  Wasn't baiting you, man.   :frown:  And - who's Brent?  I'm Dylan.  

No need for an apology. I wasn't sore about it. Now my turn to apologize. Sorry I called you Brent, Dylan.

I always thought Lunesis was Brent...

Haha these avatars and usernames can get confusing.

I try to make it easy for folks...
My avatar is my face and my username is my name

I might go all out one day and put a space between my first name and last name!

[Jagwah]

Just looked at the Figure and Take videos by Props on Youtube and there's a lot of negative comments about no Android support, seems a lot of people want it so what would be the benefit of exclusivity besides... a possible merger or something else to do with Apple? The RE store percentage takes were apparently very similar to the Apple app store, and I have heard the name Apple mentioned quite a bit when discussing Props business decisions. Just mindless speculation mind you

[Gaja]

Just looked at the Figure and Take videos by Props on Youtube and there's a lot of negative comments about no Android support, seems a lot of people want it so what would be the benefit of exclusivity besides... a possible merger or something else to do with Apple? The RE store percentage takes were apparently very similar to the Apple app store, and I have heard the name Apple mentioned quite a bit when discussing Props business decisions. Just mindless speculation mind you

I don't think Props are interested in iOS exclusivity. I remember props helping Windows mobile developers with the development of low latency audio drivers (or something like that, I can't remember exactly). Afaik Android didn't meet their requirement for performability back then. So I really don't think Props are deliberately not releasing on android to be iOS exclusive, but because it would cause them more work with support than they could afford (hundreds of different models with different hardware and OS versions).

[Jagwah]

Interesting Gaja I didn't know that.

Boy I hope there is money to be made for them in the mobile market, the other DAWs will jump ahead in leaps and bounds if one starts lacking in progression, it would perpetuate out of control and everyone will know it.

[EnochLight]

Take is free. Figure is a buck. Even with Thor and Rebirth, I seriously doubt their mobile apps are contributing much to their bottom line.

These are gateway apps, is all. Reason/RE has been and forever shall be their cash cow.

That said, there was a clip in the Windows Build 2015 conference recently that showed Figure/Take running on Windows Phone (starts at about the 7 minute 15 second mark here: https://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2015/KEY02), so I'll wager that we'll eventually see them appear on that platform as well as Android eventually. Just makes sense to cater to as many potential customers as possible IMHO.

[GeiddE]

If I may interject my prediction ....
I predict none of this matters or will matter

Go have some fun making music
I dont like to see this amongst friends

[Jagwah]

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[EnochLight]

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LOL!!! *golf clap*