Reason 8.1 & above CPU Stress Test (songfile included)!

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16 Nov 2017

moalla wrote:
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AlanBlanco wrote:
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Interesting..

What are your results with HT turned off?

What are your results playing back 2 copies of the benchmark at the same time?

Thanks

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moalla
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16 Nov 2017

Two Tracks at the same time isn´t working,
Now i changed my ram speed and the track stops playing at 1,15 min HT off
only crackles at the end

played the hole song HT on
CRACKLING THE HOLE TIME, MAYBE I MUST MAKE A NEW WINDOWS INSTALLATION audio driver is corrupted

Ryzen 1700 (OC 3600 Mhz) ft in bios switched on, vt also
2800Mhz Ram Cl16

at the same time with the complex 9.51 bench from Kategra it deppends totaly wich adjustment i have made on my ram,
but at the end highest Mhz, the system isn´t stable for longer use and provokes blue screens at to much load.
Now i will make a last test, without vt and ftmp.

1,20 min HT off
hole song HT on but hole time crackling

So that´s it
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16 Nov 2017

moalla wrote:
16 Nov 2017
Two Tracks at the same time isn´t working,
Now i changed my ram speed and the track stops playing at 1,15 min HT off
only crackles at the end

played the hole song HT on
CRACKLING THE HOLE TIME, MAYBE I MUST MAKE A NEW WINDOWS INSTALLATION audio driver is corrupted

Ryzen 1700 (OC 3600 Mhz) ft in bios switched on, vt also
2800Mhz Ram Cl16

at the same time with the complex 9.51 bench from Kategra it deppends totaly wich adjustment i have made on my ram,
but at the end highest Mhz, the system isn´t stable for longer use and provokes blue screens at to much load.
Now i will make a last test, without vt and ftmp.

1,20 min HT off
hole song HT on but hole time crackling

So that´s it
Thanks for doing that.

1:15 is a good result with HT off...

Maybe it's time to have a good look at the Ryzen 1700..

cheers

AlanBlanco
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16 Nov 2017

i disabed hyperthreading only to try on games but in all them nothing improve.Is not cpu fault the games are shity programed and use bad the resources you have.
And with the reason side is all depending on what vst and presets you use.there are some crazy presets on serum for pads,not sounds super impresive but with only one of them you can start listening clicks and audio problems.

When i start to put ozone7 on the master you can see how dsp goes so high.

Or vst implementation on reason is so bad or vst's benefit more from single core power intel have.

But if is not for the people suporting amd,intel not make a step forward.
I think people should thank us instead of going into the typical debates of who is better XD.

AlanBlanco
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16 Nov 2017

i forgot to mention im on windows 7 and i have beter cinebench scores on it than on windows 10.Windows 10 loads a lot of shit

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05 Dec 2017

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07 Dec 2017

Just finished a vanilla Windows 10 build (nothing optimized):
96,000 Hz, 2048 samples
Computer too slow to play song @ 56 seconds

44.1 hz, 64 samples.
No sweat whole song, no crackles either. Would tinkle on the 4th dsp bar near the end.
Reason needs to DAW.viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7504985

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08 Dec 2017

Psuper wrote:
07 Dec 2017
Just finished a vanilla Windows 10 build (nothing optimized):
96,000 Hz, 2048 samples
Computer too slow to play song @ 56 seconds

44.1 hz, 64 samples.
No sweat whole song, no crackles either. Would tinkle on the 4th dsp bar near the end.
Please report the following when sharing your results:

Your CPU model (Intel i7 3770k, AMD FX 8350, etc) and clock speed - as well as whether or not you are overclocking
The amount of RAM you have
Your audiocard Brand and Model
Your audiocard driver settings (sample rate 44100 Hz recommended and max buffer settings)
CPU Useage Limit must be set to 95% in Reason's settings
When playback stops / Computer too slow warning appears ----> (bars & time)


There is also another thread with more CPU intensive songs viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7501402

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08 Dec 2017

Kategra wrote:
08 Dec 2017
Psuper wrote:
07 Dec 2017
Just finished a vanilla Windows 10 build (nothing optimized):
96,000 Hz, 2048 samples
Computer too slow to play song @ 56 seconds

44.1 hz, 64 samples.
No sweat whole song, no crackles either. Would tinkle on the 4th dsp bar near the end.
Please report the following when sharing your results:

Your CPU model (Intel i7 3770k, AMD FX 8350, etc) and clock speed - as well as whether or not you are overclocking
The amount of RAM you have
Your audiocard Brand and Model
Your audiocard driver settings (sample rate 44100 Hz recommended and max buffer settings)
CPU Useage Limit must be set to 95% in Reason's settings
When playback stops / Computer too slow warning appears ----> (bars & time)


There is also another thread with more CPU intensive songs viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7501402
Thanks Kat ahh good I thought I saw that somewhere coudln't find it though.
Reason needs to DAW.viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7504985

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19 Jan 2018

okay, you are going to hate me for that .. the test song played all the way until the end, max load was 3 dsp bars (49% according to task manager), max power consumption (measured at the wall socket) was 144W (74W for the CPU, cstates/speedstep/turbomode etc disabled, all cores running @2600MHz, "balanced" power plan in Win10, optimized for background services). All that @44.1kHz, 64 sample buffer w/o any dropouts. max CPU temperature was 40°C.

(yeah, I'm testing my new PC build, it's really amazing. It can handle 16+ instances of VK2 or Respire w/o any issues!)
(my previous PC showed the "too slow" message after only a second or two with this test project..)

However: After duplicating a single track that consumes 5 DSP bars a couple of times (4..6), I was getting clicks'n'pops in Reason. For example, I was able to run 4 instances of a heavy Diva patch (12 voices @divine quality) in Reason, and 8 of them in Reaper (both @44.1kHz/64 samples). It _should_ technically be possible to run 12..14 (maybe more) instances of such a patch.

Each time an instance was added in Reaper, there were dropouts for around a second which caused some very annoying noises (you would not want to listen to them on monitors at high volume levels!)

However, both apps did not manage to utilize the CPU properly:
While Reason used all cores, it only managed to play a few instances, and while Reaper played twice as many instances, it left almost half of the cores unused. I can only guess that the audio/ASIO thread was the bottleneck here.

note to Propellerhead: In order to improve the performance with heavy patches and lots of tracks on multi-core monster machines, I think it would make sense to let the user assign / lock tracks to specific CPU cores ! (and exclude the locked cores from the automatic load distribution, which should still be the track default, of course)

EDIT:
Your CPU model (Intel i7 3770k, AMD FX 8350, etc) and clock speed - as well as whether or not you are overclocking:
i9 7980xe @2600MHz (no OC)
The amount of RAM you have:
a lot (32gb)
Your audiocard Brand and Model:
Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 (USB2)
Your audiocard driver settings (sample rate 44100 Hz recommended and max buffer settings):
44100 / 64

Przemyslaw
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20 Jan 2018

Hey bsp !

Great results !
Try to make a test in 9.5 Reason thread also (if You have Reason 9.5 at least).
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7501402
Especially in complex song benchmark.

I'm curious about your performance. What MHz of Ram do You have ?

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bsp
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21 Jan 2018

done :)
RAM is DDR4-3200, currently running at 1333Mhz ("2666").

Przemyslaw
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21 Jan 2018

Thanks !

I observed that Ram speed has great influence on Reason performance. In my case, i7 7820x acceleration of Ram from 2800MHz to 3200MHz move up the performance clearly, much stronger than cpu OC. It is common on Skylake chipset I read.

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03 Feb 2018

Played all the way through, some stuttering from early on.

Reason 10

Windows 10 Pro
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700 CPU @ 3.20GHz 3.19 GHz / up to 4.6 GHz
Installedd memory (RAM): 16.00GB (15.8GB usable)
System type: 64-bit Operating System, x64-based processor
USB Interface: Steinberg UR22mkII
Buffer: 2048 samples
6 bars DSP


Multi core rendering & hyper-threading audio rendering ON
Not overclocked

Spyderfyre
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23 Feb 2018

Intel i9 7920x on High Sierra 10.13.3
2.9Ghz - Overclocked "idle speed" to 3.9Ghz (Hackintosh)
32gig ram @ 3200Mhz
Apollo Twin Quad
44100 Hz Max Buffer of 2,048 Samples
CPU Useage Limit: 95%

55:681 Seconds (28.4.2.108)
Last edited by Spyderfyre on 12 Mar 2018, edited 2 times in total.

egelmett
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07 Mar 2018

michael.jaye wrote:
03 Feb 2018
Played all the way through, some stuttering from early on.

Reason 10

Windows 10 Pro
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700 CPU @ 3.20GHz 3.19 GHz / up to 4.6 GHz
Installedd memory (RAM): 16.00GB (15.8GB usable)
System type: 64-bit Operating System, x64-based processor
USB Interface: Steinberg UR22mkII
Buffer: 2048 samples
6 bars DSP


Multi core rendering & hyper-threading audio rendering ON
Not overclocked
Any other settings that may have allowed you to achieve this?

I have a very similar setup to yours: Win10 Pro 64bit, 8700K, 16gig 3200 ram, UR44 - at the largest buffer (2048) I'm only getting to 40 seconds.

Now, I have been testing this same hardware for a Hackintosh setup, my results are along the lines of Spiderfyre on this post: viewtopic.php?p=379458#p379458

With an i9, he should have flown through it!

I can get into the 50 seconds range, same hardware as noted for Windows, just on MacOS Sierra 10.12.6.

Well, congrats! You have a finely tuned machine...I have some work to do!

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07 Mar 2018

egelmett wrote:
07 Mar 2018
michael.jaye wrote:
03 Feb 2018
Played all the way through, some stuttering from early on.

Reason 10

Windows 10 Pro
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700 CPU @ 3.20GHz 3.19 GHz / up to 4.6 GHz
Installedd memory (RAM): 16.00GB (15.8GB usable)
System type: 64-bit Operating System, x64-based processor
USB Interface: Steinberg UR22mkII
Buffer: 2048 samples
6 bars DSP


Multi core rendering & hyper-threading audio rendering ON
Not overclocked
Any other settings that may have allowed you to achieve this?

I have a very similar setup to yours: Win10 Pro 64bit, 8700K, 16gig 3200 ram, UR44 - at the largest buffer (2048) I'm only getting to 40 seconds.

Now, I have been testing this same hardware for a Hackintosh setup, my results are along the lines of Spiderfyre on this post: viewtopic.php?p=379458#p379458

With an i9, he should have flown through it!

I can get into the 50 seconds range, same hardware as noted for Windows, just on MacOS Sierra 10.12.6.

Well, congrats! You have a finely tuned machine...I have some work to do!
Don't forget to limit the CPU to 95% and most people post with a buffer size of 1024, that way it's easier to compare CPU and system setups.

egelmett
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07 Mar 2018

Carly(Poohbear) wrote:
07 Mar 2018

Don't forget to limit the CPU to 95% and most people post with a buffer size of 1024, that way it's easier to compare CPU and system setups.
Yes, sir. That was set as directed.

I think there could be some tuning on my part to increase performance before overclocking. I found HPET on the MSI Z370 Gaming MB to reduce performance drastically. Turning it off allowed me to get realtime audio without breakup...and by breakup, I mean just one synth, Arturia JP-8, couldn't play without experiencing audio artifacts. Without HPET, all is good. At least until I saw michael.jaye's post....

I think for Windows performance, I could improve things a bit.

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12 Mar 2018

egelmett wrote:
07 Mar 2018
michael.jaye wrote:
03 Feb 2018
Played all the way through, some stuttering from early on.

Reason 10

Windows 10 Pro
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700 CPU @ 3.20GHz 3.19 GHz / up to 4.6 GHz
Installedd memory (RAM): 16.00GB (15.8GB usable)
System type: 64-bit Operating System, x64-based processor
USB Interface: Steinberg UR22mkII
Buffer: 2048 samples
6 bars DSP


Multi core rendering & hyper-threading audio rendering ON
Not overclocked
Any other settings that may have allowed you to achieve this?

I have a very similar setup to yours: Win10 Pro 64bit, 8700K, 16gig 3200 ram, UR44 - at the largest buffer (2048) I'm only getting to 40 seconds.

Now, I have been testing this same hardware for a Hackintosh setup, my results are along the lines of Spiderfyre on this post: viewtopic.php?p=379458#p379458

With an i9, he should have flown through it!

I can get into the 50 seconds range, same hardware as noted for Windows, just on MacOS Sierra 10.12.6.

Well, congrats! You have a finely tuned machine...I have some work to do!
Do you have your CPU set to a set speed (I have mine firing at 3.9Ghz all the time) or are you using default settings (idle at 1.2GHZ turbo to 4.2ghz)?

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13 Mar 2018

Shibs wrote:
05 Dec 2017
44s
Macbook pro late 2016 i7 quadcore 2.9Ghz 16Gb RAM, 4GB VRAM
Jeez, I can't even play the file and I'm pretty sure I have the same machine! Any optimizations you recommend???

egelmett
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17 May 2018

Spyderfyre wrote:
12 Mar 2018
egelmett wrote:
07 Mar 2018


Any other settings that may have allowed you to achieve this?

I have a very similar setup to yours: Win10 Pro 64bit, 8700K, 16gig 3200 ram, UR44 - at the largest buffer (2048) I'm only getting to 40 seconds.

Now, I have been testing this same hardware for a Hackintosh setup, my results are along the lines of Spiderfyre on this post: viewtopic.php?p=379458#p379458

With an i9, he should have flown through it!

I can get into the 50 seconds range, same hardware as noted for Windows, just on MacOS Sierra 10.12.6.

Well, congrats! You have a finely tuned machine...I have some work to do!
Do you have your CPU set to a set speed (I have mine firing at 3.9Ghz all the time) or are you using default settings (idle at 1.2GHZ turbo to 4.2ghz)?
Yes - I have it overclocked to 4.9GHz, fixed.

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07 Mar 2019

The download link was broken, it's fixed now on main post also :)

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