Jelie is done

[PhillipOrdonez]

[guitfnky]

That much I can confidently assume is correct without any data.

From then we can make some further assumptions based on vibes.

Phillip, my dude...my duuuude...this is not the way.

[PhillipOrdonez]

That much I can confidently assume is correct without any data.

From then we can make some further assumptions based on vibes.

Phillip, my dude...my duuuude...this is not the way.

🫠

[RobC]

Respect goes both ways.

...or it should at least. x D

[selig]

I don’t dispute that we don’t know for certain.

But here is one fact: in electronic music, reason used to be the top choice about 20 to 24 years ago.

Based on what data?

Electronic music is probably the biggest market in the world in terms of numbers of people producing computer based music today.

This means for certain that most young people back then were using reason, even if pirated.

This also means that for certain the majority of young people today aren’t using reason as it’s no longer at the top. Meaning that my assertion that it got surpassed by its contemporaries is most likely true as well.

That much I can confidently assume is correct without any data.

OK, can’t argue with that.
I don’t have anything to as confidently add, but appreciate the back and forth!

[mcatalao]

Me like...

Gives 0 frack, sent two more tracks to client to be released and nobody asked me what daw i used to arrange, mix or master.

In the last 3 years I've helped more than 5 bands and a dozen of solo artists release their stuff with reason, from demo to release and a bunch of them even didn't get remixed by the label. And I'm doing this as a very serious payed hobby!!!

Growth comes from ourselves, if she thinks the daw is the problem, good luck.

[dioxide]

Based on what data?

I recall Propellerhead saying it was the world's most popular software at one point. It seems like a big claim even for the time, so you'd have to ask them where they got their data for this claim.

viewtopic.php?p=231229#p231229

Also

In 2010 (Reason 5) the only music software company to outsell them in the US was Avid which says quite a bit.

https://gearspace.com/board/showpost.ph ... 2dd8276333

They'd dropped the big claims as time went on though, perhaps as its popularity waned.

Reason has been around for a decade and has grown to be one of the world's most popular music software titles, praised for its ease of use and high quality. Reason has just been upgraded to version 5.

Reading the Verdant acquisition press release (2017) they claim that:

Reason 9 was released in June 2016, the latest version of Propellerhead’s award-winning music production software, which helped drive record sales in 2016.

So if in 2016 they had record sales – better than v2.5 / v5 – but they'd still fallen down the rankings then that suggests all music software is doing much better than in was in 2005? Personally I'm not buying this and I'm taking their claims with a large handful of salt as it just seems like hyped up PR rhetoric to me.

[guitfnky]

just need to clarify that “computer based music” includes literally every genre at this point. people use samples, synths, amp sims, and electronic drum machines to record everything from punk to country, to classical, to dubstep, and everything in between, these days. by now, it’s a distinction without a difference. I can just as easily label what I do “computer based music” as I can call it alt rock or whatever.