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Re: How long do you think it will take to update reason to work on ARM Macs?

Posted: 29 Jun 2020
by Bjørn Felle
bxbrkrz wrote:
29 Jun 2020


This is nothing new. The pattern is clear. Here is an old article from 2015. They will never stop.
Sure, I’ve been around since cassette drives and floppies and have seen this trend developing for a couple of decades at least. It is an inevitable consequence of ruinous corporate psychopaths. They do it to everything. Even punk wasn’t safe from the corporations. Interesting article though, thanks

Re: How long do you think it will take to update reason to work on ARM Macs?

Posted: 29 Jun 2020
by bxbrkrz
Bjørn Felle wrote:
29 Jun 2020
bxbrkrz wrote:
29 Jun 2020


This is nothing new. The pattern is clear. Here is an old article from 2015. They will never stop.
Sure, I’ve been around since cassette drives and floppies and have seen this trend developing for a couple of decades at least. It is an inevitable consequence of ruinous corporate psychopaths. They do it to everything. Even punk wasn’t safe from the corporations. Interesting article though, thanks
:geek: :thumbs_up:

Re: How long do you think it will take to update reason to work on ARM Macs?

Posted: 30 Jun 2020
by tronam
One positive thing to come out of the followup interviews with Apple engineers after WWDC was that they want to ensure the Mac remains a computer open to tweaking and experimentation where users can even totally disable SIP (system integrity protection) if they wish. They understand and want to preserve the distinction between Mac and iPad.

Re: How long do you think it will take to update reason to work on ARM Macs?

Posted: 01 Jul 2020
by miscend
Billy wrote:
23 Jun 2020


Hi Mattias, so does this mean that Mac will have multiple versions of download one for intel one for arm or will old OS / Intel hardware be dropped?
Apple is encouraging developers to make Universal Binaries.

Re: How long do you think it will take to update reason to work on ARM Macs?

Posted: 01 Jul 2020
by miscend
buddard wrote:
24 Jun 2020

Porting the REs will be the easiest part, I think. They're already stored in a platform-independent LLVM format, it's just a matter of recompiling them for the new architecture.

I believe there are REs that use SSE instructions. Not sure how well those translate over to the ARM equivalent extensions. Some VSTs use AVX2 as far I'm aware the Apple Silicon does not support the ARM version of that yet.

Re: How long do you think it will take to update reason to work on ARM Macs?

Posted: 01 Jul 2020
by buddard
miscend wrote:
01 Jul 2020
buddard wrote:
24 Jun 2020

Porting the REs will be the easiest part, I think. They're already stored in a platform-independent LLVM format, it's just a matter of recompiling them for the new architecture.

I believe there are REs that use SSE instructions. Not sure how well those translate over to the ARM equivalent extensions. Some VSTs use AVX2 as far I'm aware the Apple Silicon does not support the ARM version of that yet.
I’m pretty sure that Apple Silicon supports the SSE instructions that are supported by LLVM. It only seems to be the newer instruction sets that are not (yet) supported.

So hopefully the conversion should go smoothly for all REs. 😊

Re: How long do you think it will take to update reason to work on ARM Macs?

Posted: 09 Aug 2020
by jwd606
The latest rumours are the forthcoming ARM Macs will be cheaper than the Intel models they replace.

Re: How long do you think it will take to update reason to work on ARM Macs?

Posted: 09 Aug 2020
by miscend
jwd606 wrote:
09 Aug 2020
The latest rumours are the forthcoming ARM Macs will be cheaper than the Intel models they replace.
Intel chips are over priced anyway. Apple could have made them cheaper if they had used AMD chips.

Apparently the ARM Macs wont have discrete GPUs, so Apple are also saving money by using their own graphics solution.

Re: How long do you think it will take to update reason to work on ARM Macs?

Posted: 11 Aug 2020
by Jackjackdaw
I wonder why it is that people will take their grievences with Windows to the grave but will have endless patience for Apple's constant f-ing about... Ahem sorry, 'innovation' :lol:

Re: How long do you think it will take to update reason to work on ARM Macs?

Posted: 11 Aug 2020
by vondersulzburg
And Reason 11 is running smoothly under Big Sur

Re: How long do you think it will take to update reason to work on ARM Macs?

Posted: 11 Aug 2020
by kuhliloach
c'mom let's be real shall we? We're talking about a company that never bothered to modernize the UI of their software yet charges customers for upgrades. Arm code? LOL - who even cares?

Re: How long do you think it will take to update reason to work on ARM Macs?

Posted: 15 Aug 2020
by enossified
wendylou wrote:
26 Jun 2020
Apple said the first ARM chips will include a 24” iMac perhaps in the 4th quarter, and no one knows exactly when 27” or larger ARM iMacs will debut.
Since they just dropped new 27" iMacs like a week ago I would expect no ARM based 27" until late 2021 at the earliest.