Reason 10.2 with workflow improvements. - OUT NOW

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24 Aug 2018

Hydrosonic wrote:
24 Aug 2018
It's nice.... but tbh PH are so slow into the game that others already do this, where is TRACK FREEZE??? probably Reason 15 will add it..
I wonder if they will ever add it, especially as it seems that most of those DAWs that haven't already implemented it years ago, aren't implementing it now. When was the last time that freeze functionality was added to a major DAW? Tracktion was the last one that did anything along those lines, allowing you to freeze anywhere in the plugin chain. Even S1 doesn't have true freeze functionality...

I guess the Props are likely hoping the overhaul to the core of the program for improving VST performance will satiate most peoples CPU needs. I couldn't wait that long and purchased a new system that means none of my projects are going above 30% CPU...who needs food when you can make music? :P

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Hydrosonic wrote:
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It's nice.... but tbh PH are so slow into the game that others already do this, where is TRACK FREEZE??? probably Reason 15 will add it.. Where is Bezier Curves? Reason 14... These guys don't seem to care that they are 5 years later for anything. It has got to the point of only using reason for a few of its features, its like a side DAW that I rarely bother to open just for a 1 of its currently implimented things.

I've moved on to Studio One Pro 4, as PH are just too slow. I only rewire Reason thesedays.....
I disagree. I too think they're a bit late to the game but they're getting there. I think probably by Reason 12, Reason could surpass Logic, Ableton and FL Studio as these other daws don't have much else to add do they? so Reason can only catch up, if not surpass, as it's a unique software with the wiring etc.
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Can you expain this 'Easy MIDI Inputs'?
It's simply a type of background-auto-detect so that whenever you plug-in a controller (even when the program's running) it'll just work right away, even without setting up a remote map or control surface.
Nice!

That's something that agitates me on occasion. I don't do it very often but if I do, I have to turn on my midi controller and restart Reason or rescan to pick it up.

We just need the ability to change themes without restarting Reason and scanning for (if you've recently installed a VST while Reason was open) for VST's without restarting Reason.
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Creativemind wrote:
24 Aug 2018
Hydrosonic wrote:
24 Aug 2018
It's nice.... but tbh PH are so slow into the game that others already do this, where is TRACK FREEZE??? probably Reason 15 will add it.. Where is Bezier Curves? Reason 14... These guys don't seem to care that they are 5 years later for anything. It has got to the point of only using reason for a few of its features, its like a side DAW that I rarely bother to open just for a 1 of its currently implimented things.

I've moved on to Studio One Pro 4, as PH are just too slow. I only rewire Reason thesedays.....
I disagree. I too think they're a bit late to the game but they're getting there. I think probably by Reason 12, Reason could surpass Logic, Ableton and FL Studio as these other daws don't have much else to add do they? so Reason can only catch up, if not surpass, as it's a unique software with the wiring etc.

+1

There's a bunch of stuff I wish Reason had, but they're not deal-breakers for me. The workflow in Reason is so good (for me), that I can wait for things like track-freeze. (Even though track-freeze is one of my top wants)

For the most part, when Props add features, they do it so well that it just works. I compare that to Sonar, that I used to use: There were tons of features added all the time, but it was a mess. E.g. accessing many features required digging through two levels of drop-down menus, and the "ACT" midi-mapping took a brain-surgeon to understand. Anyway, I like the Props approach of adding stuff in a way that just works.

Examples of how Props adds stuff that just works? How about Players. They're pretty much perfect. Another example is VST (well, except for the bad perf :) But the workflow is just awesome)

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24 Aug 2018

I agree to stop slapping PH all the time and now applaud them for their new way of communication, great free gifts, cool new things, workflow enhancements, optimizations, improvements, new explorings and and and...to motivate them to give all their best to make Reason even better than before (which we all want!). I like cabling the sh!t out of Reason!
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i keep coming back its pretty
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Now we're talking!

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24 Aug 2018

This is what I like to see. Reason 11 could just be a bunch more of these little things, with no major new features, and I'd buy it.

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fieldframe wrote:
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This is what I like to see. Reason 11 could just be a bunch more of these little things, with no major new features, and I'd buy it.
My guess is a few more little workflow enhancements, VST optimisation and VST implements in in a 10.3 and maybe a good midi update in 10.5...

Track Freeze as people have mentioned above to me screams a major update such as 11, as does a Combinator 2 and some long anticipated audio enhancements.
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This is deffo the kind of improvement I'd like to see going forward. The faders thing is useful, but the multi edit thing is just essential. I can't wait.
Reason is my favourite music software simply because it allows me to be creative, and work fast. So any tool that speeds up the workflow is a godsend.

The other 'essential' fix for me is the whole screen resolution thing. Everything is so tiny. Wouldn't it be amazing if Props had some wizard graphics guru hiding in the back, creating a masterpiece.

Anyways, I've signed up for the beta. Still no email. How can they treat me like this? It's so unfair.

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24 Aug 2018

Adding my voice to those who are thrilled with this announcement. Nice to see user requests being honored and these in particular are ones I am interested in using. The ghost notes is a biggie, for sure.

Sync to video is my next biggest request, and if I'm too greedy, shoot me, but I'd like to have zoomable resolution in the rack. Those labels and controls are just too dang small for this old man to use 'em well...

Anyway, thanks Props!

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Creativemind wrote:
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I disagree. I too think they're a bit late to the game but they're getting there. I think probably by Reason 12, Reason could surpass Logic...
Lol, I think 10.2 is precisely their "late to the game" update.

Yeah, 10.2 is exciting, but let's not get carried away here. You mean 2 full versions from now, Reason will have their own version of the new articulation system in Logic, Smart Tempo, track freeze, track folders, advanced midi editing, a meaty Score editor, video support, markers, an updated GUI, mp3 export (that's ancient), 50+ gigabytes of very high quality content, advanced external instrument support, an instrument that surpasses Alchemy, and even an expanded color palette (lol) ??

I don't think so.
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hurricane wrote:
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Creativemind wrote:
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I disagree. I too think they're a bit late to the game but they're getting there. I think probably by Reason 12, Reason could surpass Logic...
Lol, I think 10.2 is precisely their "late to the game" update.

Yeah, 10.2 is exciting, but let's not get carried away here. You mean 2 full versions from now, Reason will have their own version of the new articulation system in Logic, Smart Tempo, track freeze, track folders, advanced midi editing, a meaty Score editor, video support, markers, an updated GUI, mp3 export (that's ancient), 50+ gigabytes of very high quality content, advanced external instrument support, an instrument that surpasses Alchemy, and even an expanded color palette (lol) ??

I don't think so.
Possibly yeah, let's not forget we have 2 more point versions possibly 3 with 10 before 11. Then 2 maybe 3 point updates for 11 before 12. You could even count 2 maybe 3 point updates with 12. So between 8 and 11 more updates possibly with 2 being major whole number ones.
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sonicbyte wrote:
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"Meanwhile, work on VST performance is ongoing. The result of this work will be released as a separate free update later this year. The reason it’s a separate release is because the performance work is an extensive rewrite of the inner workings of the program and requires an expert task force."

Also is great they at least keep us posted about this !
Very good move from PH
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24 Aug 2018

Awesome! The adaptive grid was one of my requests. Glad to see they're doing some workflow improvements. Hoping for the 4K support overhaul :-)

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hurricane wrote:
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You mean 2 full versions from now, Reason will have their own version of the new articulation system in Logic, Smart Tempo, track freeze, track folders, advanced midi editing, a meaty Score editor, video support, markers, an updated GUI, mp3 export (that's ancient), 50+ gigabytes of very high quality content, advanced external instrument support, an instrument that surpasses Alchemy, and even an expanded color palette (lol) ??

I don't think so.
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Wait... does this make you a Logic fanboy? Asking for a friend. :D ;) :lol:

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I honestly don't seee the point of alchemy when europa & grain are in a combinator.
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I honestly don't seee the point of alchemy when europa & grain are in a combinator.
Convenience + immediacy = speed.

And I'm a Logic AND Reason fanboy! :thumbs_up: :thumbs_up:

Let's just be real, Reason won't catch up to Logic anytime soon. Not at this rate. I mean we just got ganged faders and Propellerhead Record was released in 2009!
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xylyx wrote:
24 Aug 2018
Hydrosonic wrote:
24 Aug 2018
It's nice.... but tbh PH are so slow into the game that others already do this, where is TRACK FREEZE??? probably Reason 15 will add it..
I wonder if they will ever add it, especially as it seems that most of those DAWs that haven't already implemented it years ago, aren't implementing it now. When was the last time that freeze functionality was added to a major DAW? Tracktion was the last one that did anything along those lines, allowing you to freeze anywhere in the plugin chain. Even S1 doesn't have true freeze functionality...

I guess the Props are likely hoping the overhaul to the core of the program for improving VST performance will satiate most peoples CPU needs. I couldn't wait that long and purchased a new system that means none of my projects are going above 30% CPU...who needs food when you can make music? :P
I hope they will add it to the performance enhancements.

They are stating that the performance increases requires a rewrite.

Maybe it makes sense to include it with that.

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hurricane wrote:
24 Aug 2018
Oquasec wrote:
24 Aug 2018
I honestly don't seee the point of alchemy when europa & grain are in a combinator.
Convenience + immediacy = speed.

And I'm a Logic AND Reason fanboy! :thumbs_up: :thumbs_up:

Let's just be real, Reason won't catch up to Logic anytime soon. Not at this rate. I mean we just got ganged faders and Propellerhead Record was released in 2009!
Think of it this way. It never will be in terms of convenient DAW features. Reason will always be it's own thing. The lack of ganged faders was intended to give you a true analog experience ;)

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hurricane wrote:
24 Aug 2018
Oquasec wrote:
24 Aug 2018
I honestly don't seee the point of alchemy when europa & grain are in a combinator.
Convenience + immediacy = speed.

And I'm a Logic AND Reason fanboy! :thumbs_up: :thumbs_up:

Let's just be real, Reason won't catch up to Logic anytime soon. Not at this rate. I mean we just got ganged faders and Propellerhead Record was released in 2009!
I always thought that other daws would never catch up to Reason, ever! I guess you are using Reason for the wrong reasons?

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aeox wrote:
25 Aug 2018
hurricane wrote:
24 Aug 2018


Convenience + immediacy = speed.

And I'm a Logic AND Reason fanboy! :thumbs_up: :thumbs_up:

Let's just be real, Reason won't catch up to Logic anytime soon. Not at this rate. I mean we just got ganged faders and Propellerhead Record was released in 2009!
I always thought that other daws would never catch up to Reason, ever! I guess you are using Reason for the wrong reasons?
What other DAW has a rack? CV?
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Lol, I think 10.2 is precisely their "late to the game" update.

Yeah, 10.2 is exciting, but let's not get carried away here. You mean 2 full versions from now, Reason will have their own version of the new articulation system in Logic, Smart Tempo, track freeze, track folders, advanced midi editing, a meaty Score editor, video support, markers, an updated GUI, mp3 export (that's ancient), 50+ gigabytes of very high quality content, advanced external instrument support, an instrument that surpasses Alchemy, and even an expanded color palette (lol) ??

I don't think so.
Lol took the words right out of my mouth.

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25 Aug 2018

OMG this looks promising there are things in there that I wished for and things I did not know were important but now I see how important( multi-lane edit) they really are for faster workflow,

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OverneathTheSkyBridg wrote:
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Awesome! The adaptive grid was one of my requests. Glad to see they're doing some workflow improvements. Hoping for the 4K support overhaul :-)

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+1.

Would like to know more about it. Waiting for my beta. I'm off work tomorrow and Monday so fingers crossed it comes on one of them days. I doubt tomorrow actually with it being Sunday.

It can be turned off I'm guessing?
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