Reason updates (11.3.7 / 11.3.8) and Reason+

[cymek74]

If you start out on Reason+ as a new user at $20 a month, get used to the software and it improves and gets the features that are being requested, then in 18 months it goes to $25 a month, then 3 years down the line $30, you are sort of stuffed, you have to either cough up because you want to keep using Reason or jump off the subscription onto a Reason non-subscription license with no REs or another DAW.

[Last Alternative]

How come I still have to use Reason 11 in low res on my iMac to prevent jumpy video issues? Low res hurts my eyes, thusly killing my workflow and interest in their product. And it’s been years with no fix..

[joeyluck]

Reason+ is worth a try just for Companion!

It's such a breath of fresh air compared to Authorizer. You can choose to install and uninstall individual REs directly from Companion. There are currently 2 sync all options; one for all of the Reason+/Reason Studios REs and a separate one for all of your other REs. It's still not a completely customizable sync all, but it is already so much better, and I think one day we may see more options for that.

It also sorts uninstalled REs to the top of the list
The realtime search is super snappy (when browsing packs or your REs).

The sound packs are really great too. I think this is worth checking out, even if you are a user who owns everything already, just to checkout Companion and the packs.

[Goriila Texas]

I just tried to listen to some of the packs but I'm not able to listen to any of them. Do you have to sign up just to listen to packs? If so that's dumbest idea I've seen awhile regarding sound or loops.

[Loque]

How come I still have to use Reason 11 in low res on my iMac to prevent jumpy video issues? Low res hurts my eyes, thusly killing my workflow and interest in their product. And it’s been years with no fix..

Update is coming this year. Hopefully earlier this year.

[Loque]

I just tried to listen to some of the packs but I'm not able to listen to any of them. Do you have to sign up just to listen to packs? If so that's dumbest idea I've seen awhile regarding sound or loops.

They get downloaded and than played. May take a moment, especially today since their servers probably get hammered...

[ScuzzyEye]

Or you can not assume the worst, and read that as a bit of marketing fluff, "Nothing to worry about, always have the latest version, and all our instruments and effects!" Because the alternative for non-subscribers is that you don't get the latest version until you pay for the upgrade. Which is a delay. That delay depends on how long it takes your to notice there is a new version, and how quickly you can enter your credit card number.

Maybe talking about roll out of point updates?

I don't think that's likely either, because this whole thread started because a bought version of Reason 11.3.7 included a reference to Reason+ and Companion, even though they weren't a public thing yet. If they were making one rapidly updating version of Reason for subscribers, and a second slower one for owners, they would have left out the reference to Reason+ in the latter. Really, it seems the Reason that everyone will be running is the same program, just acquired in different ways.

[Goriila Texas]

I just tried to listen to some of the packs but I'm not able to listen to any of them. Do you have to sign up just to listen to packs? If so that's dumbest idea I've seen awhile regarding sound or loops.

They get downloaded and than played. May take a moment, especially today since their servers probably get hammered...

ok thanks

[Josdams]

Here's the thing, folks...

Let's say theoretically that R12 is planned for the summer.

Whether R+ is introduced now or not, R12 would still be planned for the summer.

If a subscription is not for you, that doesn't change what happens in the summer. If R+ isn't released today, nothing happens today and we have nothing to talk about. R12 would be released in the summer.

Are you following?

If anything, a subscription creates an obligation for RS to continue to innovate and update Reason in order to keep it enticing and keep subscribers on board.

So I don't get the outrage. Everything going on in the world and you want to put so much energy into the fact that you think an option of a subscription to software is the end of the world.

The outrage is for all the KEY FEATURES that people keep not getting after years of OBVIOUS request.

You just have to read the chat of that stupid live stream to understand what costumers are asking for. If you're not able to read that chat as a company, then expected not less than absolut disappointment reactions from buyers..

[Billy+]

How come I still have to use Reason 11 in low res on my iMac to prevent jumpy video issues? Low res hurts my eyes, thusly killing my workflow and interest in their product. And it’s been years with no fix..

Update is coming this year. Hopefully earlier this year.

Not before the end of April, hence the discount price for current owners.

Worse thing, we still might not get fully working vst2.4 support i.e. vst midi.

[DecafDreams]

I'm still on 11.3.6 and haven't updated yet. Is there actually any reason to update beyond this version if I want nothing to do with Reason+ or Reason Companion? Does 11.3.7/8 install Companion and also force a Packs icon into the browser sidebar and if so can either of these things be disabled?

[JiggeryPokery]

I forgot I'd done this one... seems apropos, and a bit of fun

[Billy+]

I'm still on 11.3.6 and haven't updated yet. Is there actually any reason to update beyond this version if I want nothing to do with Reason+ or Reason Companion? Does 11.3.7/8 install Companion and also force a Packs icon into the browser sidebar and if so can either of these things be disabled?

I'm about 3 or 4 updates behind and I've got none of that,

And I don't plan on updating any time soon

[EnochLight]

Here's the thing, folks...

Let's say theoretically that R12 is planned for the summer.

Whether R+ is introduced now or not, R12 would still be planned for the summer.

If a subscription is not for you, that doesn't change what happens in the summer. If R+ isn't released today, nothing happens today and we have nothing to talk about. R12 would be released in the summer.

Are you following?

If anything, a subscription creates an obligation for RS to continue to innovate and update Reason in order to keep it enticing and keep subscribers on board.

So I don't get the outrage. Everything going on in the world and you want to put so much energy into the fact that you think an option of a subscription to software is the end of the world.

I feel like this needs to be a sticky.

[Josdams]

Dear Reason Studios,


I understand that nothing changes for perpetual license owners, but that is a problem when those owners have been desperate for improvements to the DAW itself.

It’s opportunity cost- the time and attention Reason Studios is dedicating to attracting new customers is time not spent serving the ones they already have.

Most users know that RS has to generate revenue, but the company seems oblivious to the reality of what makes Reason special to begin with. It’s the unique workflow- not the outdated devices- that keep me coming back. There are only a few stock devices that I even touch- most we’re replaced by better options years ago.

The key to making current users happy and attracting new ones is to leverage your strengths while correcting your weaknesses. You are doing neither. Listen to what people are telling you.

Please, Reason Studios- stop taking the customers you’ve already won over for granted. Be advised: loyalty is a two-way street.


Respectfully yours,

Will

I will thank you instead because that CEO of Reason studios (whatever his name is ) will never be here to read your comments and requests personally, just like they did on the live stream.

They instead treat us like "the internet"

So I'll thank you for your beautiful honest feedback because you know at least I read your feedback comment.

[BonsaiMacKay]

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[arnigretar]

Saw the livestream and been reading comments in this thread all day. Kept me busy while being sick. Thanks! Anywho... imo subscription isn't for me. But props are saying that this +platform won't affect us/me from buying or upgrading to 12. So I'm cool. Soundpacks - two or three times a week? Jesus, who would want that Let's just say for a moment they will be 3 then it will be 156 soundpacks a year. 312 soundpacks in two years... lol. Who da fuck is going to get creative with that endless stuff? Maybe some, but that's not something I am looking for. But... like I said, I don't care about this + service if Reason 12 just comes out w/high res and - hopefully - vst3. And... if I can just upgrade. Btw... suite owner and been here since v1 (not that anyone cares)

[EnochLight]

A different question: Can I mute a user? Ideally also a specific mod?

Click on my username, then select "add foe" at the top. Theoretically, you should no longer see my posts, though I've never blocked anyone here so can't attest to what will happen. I'll still see your posts, though. If you don't want me to respond to things you post, I'm afraid you're out of luck and should probably quit the Internet.

[Catblack]

Reason+ is worth a try just for Companion!

No, not really.

[earwig83]

Whoa, that has never happened to me. Convincing someone on the internet is harder than making the right choices for Reason! Thank you for saying that.

I’m a pretty hard-headed guy, but I like to think if someone makes a good point I’m open to changing my mind.

Same!

[joeyluck]

Here's the thing, folks...

Let's say theoretically that R12 is planned for the summer.

Whether R+ is introduced now or not, R12 would still be planned for the summer.

If a subscription is not for you, that doesn't change what happens in the summer. If R+ isn't released today, nothing happens today and we have nothing to talk about. R12 would be released in the summer.

Are you following?

If anything, a subscription creates an obligation for RS to continue to innovate and update Reason in order to keep it enticing and keep subscribers on board.

So I don't get the outrage. Everything going on in the world and you want to put so much energy into the fact that you think an option of a subscription to software is the end of the world.

The outrage is the monthly cost during this tough times

Perpetual licenses are still an option and you can choose that route if you have the money as a new user to pay $399 or to upgrade for $129. Reason is still one the cheapest DAWs to upgrade and one of the few DAWs that doesn't have tiered upgrade paths. It's still $129 for everybody from any version.

Or there is the option to subscribe for less money up front and have access to Reason plus all the REs by Reason Studios. Prices didn't go up for perpetual licenses. An option for subscription was introduced. So you've got it all wrong. People now have options. It's up to the user to decide the best path, but we simply have more options. So I don't get your argument.

[Social Exodus]

Back door to the Shop here:

https://www.reasonstudios.com/shop/brow ... extensions

[earwig83]

Saw the livestream and been reading comments in this thread all day. Kept me busy while being sick. Thanks! Anywho... imo subscription isn't for me. But props are saying that this +platform won't affect us/me from buying or upgrading to 12. So I'm cool. Soundpacks - two or three times a week? Jesus, who would want that Let's just say for a moment they will be 3 then it will be 156 soundpacks a year. 312 soundpacks in two years... lol. Who da ferk is going to get creative with that endless stuff? Maybe some, but that's not something I am looking for. But... like I said, I don't care about this + service if Reason 12 just comes out w/high res and - hopefully - vst3. And... if I can just upgrade. Btw... suite owner and been here since v1 (not that anyone cares)

I care

[DecafDreams]

I'm still on 11.3.6 and haven't updated yet. Is there actually any reason to update beyond this version if I want nothing to do with Reason+ or Reason Companion? Does 11.3.7/8 install Companion and also force a Packs icon into the browser sidebar and if so can either of these things be disabled?

I'm about 3 or 4 updates behind and I've got none of that,

And I don't plan on updating any time soon

I'll do a backup and then try the upgrade. If I don't like it and it forces a bunch of plus shit and companion shit on me, then I can just restore the backup.

[MrFigg]

Wonder how many folk actually used the term “perpetual license” until today.