Reason updates (11.3.7 / 11.3.8) and Reason+

[Creativemind]

Even though all the evidence overwhelmingly points to this being a new subscription-based service, what if it were [completely unrelated Reason feature you want] instead?

I wouldn't be surprised if it's something nobody asked for and the 30+ features I do see being asked for on here being ignored but got my fingers crossed I'm wrong.

[Mataya]

Even though all the evidence overwhelmingly points to this being a new subscription-based service, what if it were [completely unrelated Reason feature you want] instead?

I wouldn't be surprised if it's something nobody asked for and the 30+ features I do see being asked for on here being ignored but got my fingers crossed I'm wrong.

Excatly this.

M

[Creativemind]

Please let it not be more sounds, more instruments or what have you. There must be a 1000 vst's on the market, 500+ Re's and god knows how many Refills. We don't need more sounds, we can get them. Beggars belief when I see more instruments, more things like Pattern Mutator etc etc. Just quirky things that I'm sure you could get with a vst / Re somewhere and don't enable you to finish tracks. We don't need more sounds or things to just hit a button and play quirky things, we need more functionality, make life easier stuff within the daw stuff.

[Micha1973]

i updatet i
think its a bit faster*

[supersplaron]

Aight i'm a spoil it for y'all.... The "companion" is a virtual/AI version of Ryan that pops up like that paper-clip dude from windows and just chilling and jamming along with you when you are producing.... And if you are really nice he might even play some banjo for you or sing the doorbell "ding dong" tune!

This is actually something that has been discussed multiple times around the office.

[craste]

Companion

1. a person or animal with whom one spends a lot of time or with whom one travels.

2. each of a pair of things intended to complement or match each other.
"a companion volume"

I think it will be an application to enable you to work collaboratively on a track together - my guess its Reason running in a browser, perhaps - a shared Mixer, Rack and Sequencer so you can be in London and work together on a track with your 'companion' who lives in New York and both work on the same project in real-time and both see and hear the same screen.

That would be quote cool I reckon. They have recently got the Europa synth working in a browser so we know its doable.

Cheers

Craig

After having a think about my above post, another thing it could be like other people have said is a dedicated controller.

Imagine if there was a new controller, about the size of an A3 piece of paper with knobs and pads and sliders dotted around the outside so you can physically bash, drum, tap, slide and tweak, but inside the centre was a touch screen, so if you clicked on the Subtractor for example, that would be on the controller screen and you could also manipulate it by touching the screen!

Very cool, but I can't see it being that. Mainly due to the fact that it would just be plug and play and have no need for an additional check box as Reason is all about making things easy and having a less menus and options as possible to make the workflow quick and easy.

I'm really confident in my guess that its an app to host your sessions with a collaborator(s)/companion(s) on the World Wide Web so you can jam and create musical content together.

I can't see it being a subscription service to something like Loopcloud or Splice, and the reasons being:

1: Splice and Loopcloud are really good at what they do - why try and beat them? Reason Studio's seem to be understaffed as is, as its takes them an age to put into production the most commonly asked for features. I use Splice - why would I want another version likely to have less content and less features? Its like car manufacturers will, and are actively starting to stop development of their own in car navigation apps - why invest lots of time and energy into the R&D when most sensible people will just hook up their phone and use Google maps as its simply the best sat nav to use!

If its just a (not very popular) subscription service then it would make sense to say something like : If on average the upgrade costs £120 every two years, then if you just wanted to subscribe you can pay something like £5 per month for basic Reason or £10 a month for Reason with all the Reason developed devices and Rack Extensions and then something like £20 a month if you wanted access to every Rack Extension/VST hosted within the Reason Shop.

Or for those who like to 'own' something you can carry on with the current upgrade path when you pay £120 etc. for the upgrade every time it comes out and you only pay for a rack extension if you want to add it to your arsenal.

Or a mixture of the two where for a one off £20 for a month, you can try and use every item in the shop but you'll have to bounce the final project to audio, otherwise your Rack is going to look like 'Cardboard City' once your subscription runs out! Ha ha

It can't be a way for people to use their other DAW's features/plugins in Reason because we all know they would be taking a step backwards functionality wise with the Reasons sequencer.

If its just an app to link a new Reason mobile App to the Reason DAW I think everybody will facepalm as there is a Feature Request List on here and that would be about 1000000th on the list! Ha ha

Its exciting though, and not long to wait now.

Cheers

Craig.

[Bes]

remember the tutorial window that was introduced a while back? my guess, companion is going to be a network of tutorials by folks whove been interviewed by ryan as part of the "community"

[mravdirato]

Please let it not be more sounds, more instruments or what have you. There must be a 1000 vst's on the market, 500+ Re's and god knows how many Refills. We don't need more sounds, we can get them. Beggars belief when I see more instruments, more things like Pattern Mutator etc etc. Just quirky things that I'm sure you could get with a vst / Re somewhere and don't enable you to finish tracks. We don't need more sounds or things to just hit a button and play quirky things, we need more functionality, make life easier stuff within the daw stuff.

Agreeing with this strongly. Time to go back to what really matters: making music.

[TheFesta]

Its a new version of Reason that has clip launching like ableton.

The Companion is for making those clips accessible to everyone like Tim Exiles endless app.

[Karim]

IMO you hit the spot. Both for the assonance with Disney + and for the fact that not long ago Presonus Studio one 5 implemented Sphere service that suggests a membership subscription.

I'm not at all excited about it

My gosh. That would be amazeballs.

The catch is that you need an active Reason+ subscription to use the Companion app.

Based on the name alone, and the current vernacular of service branding, I’m about 95% sure Reason+ is a subscription service of some sort. Most likely it’s a content subscription, with a regularly-updated library of refills and possibly a base tier of REs. I just hope it doesn’t also serve to gate some kind of new functionality like a remote app.

[Karim]

it would be the only positive note if that were the case.
The negative one would be a possible restriction on a subscription.
Which I flee with all my strength

Its a new version of Reason that has clip launching like ableton.

The Companion is for making those clips accessible to everyone like Tim Exiles endless app.

[Marc64]

This has only happened ones .... yet... and can't reproduce it, but...
Has anyone else had this issue on the new update that when you are on a track and press F2 to get the Spectrum eq up there is nothing there, no grid, no wave or dots or anything. I have to press the Spectrum eq button on the track I want to work as it should.

[moneykube]

companion could be their new escort service

[Tweak]

I speculate that it is a subscription service which provides access to all existing REs. The companion app could be a separate cloud enabled application that acted as a replacement for the RE shop to allow you to preview REs in realtime. With the DSP code running in the cloud and any audio/cv being sent to reason. Once you were happy you wanted to use a particular rack extension using the companion app, you could commit to its download and installation.

The "every RE" subscription could usher in a new era of cross-RE compatible combinators. Sound designers could then make a combinator containing any RE and know all those with subscriptions could use it. This brings back value to refills, and sets up Reason brilliantly for the combinator to be upgraded in version 12.

Or it could be something lame ;P

[OverneathTheSkyBridg]

I'm pretty sure this is not a GUI update, as they'll probably save that for Reason 12. Definitely holding off on the upgrade until I find out what this is all about, but I'm not really that excited about a subscription service. I've already bought so many things that I haven't even gotten around to using so that'll be a nope from me. The only other thing I can think of is if Reason allows it's Rack to be controlled in a tactile way from an iPad or Android device, though given their track record they don't really seem to care that much about Android which leaves me out in the cold.

I'm running Reason 11 suite, so if the subscription method is the way forward I'm fine with what I have as of now and will wish them well but I highly doubt they're going to just shut out customers like myself.

Ryan, just show us the damn product already!!!!!

Do you think it could be something along the lines of a dedicated controller, like Maschine or something along those lines?

I have no issues with a subscription service as long as you can choose between it or the normal upgrade path we currently have.

A dedicated controller would be super cool. Like many in this forum I'm using a Nektar Panorama P6 which is the closest iteration I've seen to an actual hardware controller for Reason, so it would have to be pretty cool to beat that and the Maschine / MPC options we already have. Like many have said here it's probably just a subscription service integrated into the software. It's gonna be pretty hard to compete with Splice and Loopcloud, seeing as they are already pretty entrenched in the market.

[froggo_gfx]

I think specific wording isn’t that important in the case of this Companion thing, and it’s just some background utility not unlike Adobe Helper or ITunes Helper which meant to help their services to run smoothly, not to help you retouch your photos or listen to music.

[Billy+]

Well I can see we're all still guessing...... I wonder how many more posts/guesses we can get in, we still have over 24 hours left before the stream.

I'm thinking we're loosing the version number, so from now on we all have to say Reason plus not v11 v12 and that way the dreaded v13 is never reached, some folks don't like certain number!

I'm quite into the virtual Ryan playing banjo and I think the default track should be "I wanna hold your hand" by the Beatles...with more companions to come via subscription

[RoryM0]

Content subscription + iOS app that facilitates... something.

I like to buy things outright that I use, even if I end up not using them + I don't have any iOS devices. I'm ok with this as presumably I'll have the option not to use them, but if new Reason updates are kept behind a subscription wall in some way then I guess I'll be on Reason 10 until the Sun burns out.

[Heater]

I wonder if the + is about collaboration.

[Yonatan]

I speculate that it is a subscription service which provides access to all existing REs. The companion app could be a separate cloud enabled application that acted as a replacement for the RE shop to allow you to preview REs in realtime. With the DSP code running in the cloud and any audio/cv being sent to reason. Once you were happy you wanted to use a particular rack extension using the companion app, you could commit to its download and installation.

The "every RE" subscription could usher in a new era of cross-RE compatible combinators. Sound designers could then make a combinator containing any RE and know all those with subscriptions could use it. This brings back value to refills, and sets up Reason brilliantly for the combinator to be upgraded in version 12.

Or it could be something lame ;P

Sounds interesting. Something Cloud based for sure. And as there has been some "cleaning up" lately with a few RE´s, it should involve RE in some way, and if it is to do with some sort of collaboration, RE library on a web based and/or cloud, needs to be available to freely share projects.
But, yes, a new Companion app to do some things in real time together with ordinary Reason, might be the case, so that Reason+ is a system to be able to add and use Reason devices on several devices (tablet/phone) at same time as part of the rack. May be it is enabling a jamming with others on a distance too. Who knows.

[aftrshok99]

I speculate that it is a subscription service which provides access to all existing REs. The companion app could be a separate cloud enabled application that acted as a replacement for the RE shop to allow you to preview REs in realtime. With the DSP code running in the cloud and any audio/cv being sent to reason. Once you were happy you wanted to use a particular rack extension using the companion app, you could commit to its download and installation.

The "every RE" subscription could usher in a new era of cross-RE compatible combinators. Sound designers could then make a combinator containing any RE and know all those with subscriptions could use it. This brings back value to refills, and sets up Reason brilliantly for the combinator to be upgraded in version 12.

Or it could be something lame ;P

I like this idea but I wouldn't be totally surprised if it's something lame like you said. LOL

[stuk71]

I am thinking it could be a gadget like PUSH that has been made as a partnership with Nektar Tech

[vertibration]

It would be absolutely silly to make an announcement if it was merely a subscription service. They could just literally say, "Hey, you can subscribe to reason now”.

I agree. Seems strange they would make such fanfare about something most people don’t seem to want. Live stream starts and they announce subscription service. 90% of viewers close stream and get on with something else! :-/

Yea man, I think a subscription service isn't entirely bad if there is a huge update like HI REZ, and many other features. The price point has to be solid. They release a new version every 1-2 years based on past data. $599 for Suite, any subscription service priced at an affordable price point cuts into their sales for Suite. However, they may decide a subscription model at an affordable price point will drive new users. Those sales might be much bigger than their sales for Suite. I dont know........This is just speculation

[Yonatan]

what if reason + is reason with integrated google + ?

Google Meet and Youtube live streaming inside your DAW(G).
"Never feel alone again. Your new audience is just a click away. Finish your songs with the pressure of surveillance. In the pan-de-mic, go viral."

Copyright? You are already owned by big tech, so just enjoy the ride and face the phrase that if you can´t beat them, make a beat to join them!

[deeplink]

If it's a sub service that allows for the fluid collaboration of Reason (or RRP) users within the Reason Store then I think it's a huge leap forward for the music production tribe.