Select the rack you want when you add track in the sequencer

[ARAlife]

In the sequencer per add track button or drag and drop to create an instrument / audio track is cool
but

why can not decide immediately where it is in the rack


Here I made some pictures that can give a opportunity

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[ARAlife]

Drag and Drop

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[antic604]

Great idea! I'd love that!

[Cesco]

+1

great and also simple.

[antic604]

Great idea! I'd love that!

BTW, what's the logic Reason uses (no pun intended ) to decide where devices dragged into the Sequencer are placed in Rack? Sometimes I'm really surprised where they end up and dragging them around few columns of dozens devices in each isn't exactly fun...

[Hydrosonic]

I've said for years, and mentioned it on here countless times. Reason needs a Rack per Track function! it's a F**King mess having all the racks jumbled like a carboot sale together. I don't use Reason for anything other than a very expensive synth. I don't have time to be dealing with the mess of the racks. Even after all of the work flow things they have added, its still looks like a junkyard with the current system.

[chimp_spanner]

I've said for years, and mentioned it on here countless times. Reason needs a Rack per Track function! it's a F**King mess having all the racks jumbled like a carboot sale together. I don't use Reason for anything other than a very expensive synth. I don't have time to be dealing with the mess of the racks. Even after all of the work flow things they have added, its still looks like a junkyard with the current system.

You can kinda do this already. Easiest way is to fullscreen the rack view and then drag the overview pane all the way over to the left. This will leave exactly one rack column visible (with the browser active). Clicking once on any column in the overview will centre the view precisely on that column. Alternatively you could detach the rack and resize it horizontally; the minimum size again is one rack column (with the browser hidden). With the browser on you'll need to manually resize it until it fits. From there you can use the arrow keys to navigate around the rack and it'll jump a column at a time, effectively giving you one rack per device (or per device category if that's how you choose to have it set up).

Not perfect but it's certainly possible. Colour coding also helps a lot, as well as using free rack divider REs to break up the mess and name sections of the rack!

[antic604]

I've said for years, and mentioned it on here countless times. Reason needs a Rack per Track function! it's a F**King mess having all the racks jumbled like a carboot sale together. I don't use Reason for anything other than a very expensive synth. I don't have time to be dealing with the mess of the racks. Even after all of the work flow things they have added, its still looks like a junkyard with the current system.

Well, that's not a great idea because I often use CVs or audio (e.g. sidechain source) from one track's devices in other track's devices, so how would I drag the cables then?

And BTW, no one prevents you from using separate Rack columns for different tracks, or groups of sounds - that's what I do.

[Hydrosonic]

I've said for years, and mentioned it on here countless times. Reason needs a Rack per Track function! it's a F**King mess having all the racks jumbled like a carboot sale together. I don't use Reason for anything other than a very expensive synth. I don't have time to be dealing with the mess of the racks. Even after all of the work flow things they have added, its still looks like a junkyard with the current system.

Well, that's not a great idea because I often use CVs or audio (e.g. sidechain source) from one track's devices in other track's devices, so how would I drag the cables then?

And BTW, no one prevents you from using separate Rack columns for different tracks, or groups of sounds - that's what I do.

The would obviously need to put in a patchbay style system to route CV and audio for other tracks and devices etc. But it would go a long way to clearing all of the clutter up.

[esselfortium]

I just really want an option that automatically puts each new instrument in its own device column. It's what I do manually already, and it makes the rack so much more navigable and legible.

[Hydrosonic]

I just really want an option that automatically puts each new instrument in its own device column. It's what I do manually already, and it makes the rack so much more navigable and legible.

That would work too, like you say something just to make it more navigatable. And clear up the clutter. I find all of that really kills my creativity, I mostly use Studio One now as I can work faster in that. I hardly bother with Reason asI just think about loading it up and usually just say to myself is it worth the effort... I do like Reason but I use it selectively when I need it for certain things.

[aeox]

In the sequencer per add track button or drag and drop to create an instrument / audio track is cool
but

why can not decide immediately where it is in the rack


Here I made some pictures that can give a opportunity

[selig]

why can not decide immediately where it is in the rack

If you have “Auto-group devices and tracks” selected in the Options menu, new devices will be added after the current selected device (when double-clicking in the browser. Otherwise they will be added where you drop them. In both cases all three views should be the same.



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[ARAlife]

In the sequencer per add track button or drag and drop to create an instrument / audio track is cool
but

why can not decide immediately where it is in the rack


Here I made some pictures that can give a opportunity

why can not decide immediately where it is in the rack

If you have “Auto-group devices and tracks” selected in the Options menu, new devices will be added after the current selected device (when double-clicking in the browser. Otherwise they will be added where you drop them. In both cases all three views should be the same.



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I know that this is possible.

I try to explain it:

I like to work with several racks and label them in different categories.

Melo, Vocels, Drums ...

If I still want to create a vocel track and I open a vocel track in the seqencer I would like to decide immediately that it appears in the vocel rack area.

At the moment it will automatically be attached to the last one.

If I'm in the rack view that's no problem.

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[selig]

I know that this is possible.

I try to explain it:

I like to work with several racks and label them in different categories.

Melo, Vocels, Drums ...

If I still want to create a vocel track and I open a vocel track in the seqencer I would like to decide immediately that it appears in the vocel rack area.

At the moment it will automatically be attached to the last one.

If I'm in the rack view that's no problem.

Seems like the quickest way to work is to select the desired rack in Rack View, then add the track there or in the sequencer.

If you prefer to stay in Sequence View, just click on the last existing vocal track in the sequencer then "create audio track".
If there is no vocal yet in your song, you can create a song template with a rack "label" RE (like any of the free options including my own Selig ReMark) for each rack, and with a sequencer track for each as well. Then you simply click on those from the sequencer and add a new track and it will be exactly where you want!

This is one of those suggestions that is so specific and "high level", and is already pretty easy to accomplish precisely and logically as is, that it is unlikely you'll see them everything required to make this possible. For example, they would have to not only add a command from the sequencer to choose the rack when dropping or adding (which would possibly be annoying if you didn't need it, and they would also have to add a way to label each rack individually so you can address them by name.

To which I would ask, how this should actually work? When I use "command-T" to create a new audio track from the sequencer, how would I define the destination rack? Would there be a popup that I have to click "ok" on before I could create the track? What if I just want to create a new audio track as before, without having the extra step popup each time? That would require an option in the Prefs or some other way of specifying exactly what you want to do when adding a new track.

[joeyluck]

I know that this is possible.

I try to explain it:

I like to work with several racks and label them in different categories.

Melo, Vocels, Drums ...

If I still want to create a vocel track and I open a vocel track in the seqencer I would like to decide immediately that it appears in the vocel rack area.

At the moment it will automatically be attached to the last one.

If I'm in the rack view that's no problem.

I get what you're after. And I understand many folks work and create new devices in the Sequencer. I work in the Rack first and then move to the Sequencer (and back and forth).

Might actually be better to first approach another feature suggestion, which is to have labeling of racks within Reason. And I'm not speaking of using a labeler RE, but have it so that racks in Reason are labeled at the top, with default names like Rack 1, Rack 2, etc. (and can be renamed to Vocals, Drums, or whatever). Then, something like what you are proposing would be even simpler to do from the Sequencer; having text for the individual Racks to choose from. But I think the argument will come up that if Rack placement is a priority, then perhaps one should simply be creating in the Rack...

[ARAlife]

I know that this is possible.

I try to explain it:

I like to work with several racks and label them in different categories.

Melo, Vocels, Drums ...

If I still want to create a vocel track and I open a vocel track in the seqencer I would like to decide immediately that it appears in the vocel rack area.

At the moment it will automatically be attached to the last one.

If I'm in the rack view that's no problem.

Seems like the quickest way to work is to select the desired rack in Rack View, then add the track there or in the sequencer.

If you prefer to stay in Sequence View, just click on the last existing vocal track in the sequencer then "create audio track".
If there is no vocal yet in your song, you can create a song template with a rack "label" RE (like any of the free options including my own Selig ReMark) for each rack, and with a sequencer track for each as well. Then you simply click on those from the sequencer and add a new track and it will be exactly where you want!

This is one of those suggestions that is so specific and "high level", and is already pretty easy to accomplish precisely and logically as is, that it is unlikely you'll see them everything required to make this possible. For example, they would have to not only add a command from the sequencer to choose the rack when dropping or adding (which would possibly be annoying if you didn't need it, and they would also have to add a way to label each rack individually so you can address them by name.

To which I would ask, how this should actually work? When I use "command-T" to create a new audio track from the sequencer, how would I define the destination rack? Would there be a popup that I have to click "ok" on before I could create the track? What if I just want to create a new audio track as before, without having the extra step popup each time? That would require an option in the Prefs or some other way of specifying exactly what you want to do when adding a new track.

Super thanks Selig for the tip with ReMark. I've just tried and it works great.
all those years and I didn't think about it.

[ARAlife]

I know that this is possible.

I try to explain it:

I like to work with several racks and label them in different categories.

Melo, Vocels, Drums ...

If I still want to create a vocel track and I open a vocel track in the seqencer I would like to decide immediately that it appears in the vocel rack area.

At the moment it will automatically be attached to the last one.

If I'm in the rack view that's no problem.

I get what you're after. And I understand many folks work and create new devices in the Sequencer. I work in the Rack first and then move to the Sequencer (and back and forth).

Might actually be better to first approach another feature suggestion, which is to have labeling of racks within Reason. And I'm not speaking of using a labeler RE, but have it so that racks in Reason are labeled at the top, with default names like Rack 1, Rack 2, etc. (and can be renamed to Vocals, Drums, or whatever). Then, something like what you are proposing would be even simpler to do from the Sequencer; having text for the individual Racks to choose from. But I think the argument will come up that if Rack placement is a priority, then perhaps one should simply be creating in the Rack...

Great approach! Let's see what the future brings.

Honestly i work only in the rack view and then go to sequencer over but with R10.2 I've tried it

and that felt wrong.

[Jagwah]

Great idea! I'd love that!

BTW, what's the logic Reason uses (no pun intended ) to decide where devices dragged into the Sequencer are placed in Rack? Sometimes I'm really surprised where they end up and dragging them around few columns of dozens devices in each isn't exactly fun...

Same with dragging audio into the sequencer - the Audio Track always ends up in what seems to be a weird place, usually in the middle of a chain of effects etc. The only conclusion I can come to is that they end up beneath the last device you had selected / highlighted in the rack.

[selig]

BTW, what's the logic Reason uses (no pun intended ) to decide where devices dragged into the Sequencer are placed in Rack? Sometimes I'm really surprised where they end up and dragging them around few columns of dozens devices in each isn't exactly fun...

Same with dragging audio into the sequencer - the Audio Track always ends up in what seems to be a weird place, usually in the middle of a chain of effects etc. The only conclusion I can come to is that they end up beneath the last device you had selected / highlighted in the rack.

Double clicking on a device or using the key command to create an audio track is totally tied to what is selected, which is how you control it. But when you drag it into the rack/sequencer/mixer, it goes exactly where you put it, no matter what was selected. Note that for this to work, you need to keep the rack/mixer/sequencer order in sync (use the "Sort selected device groups" to take care of this if things get out of sync).

For example, if I drag a mixer channel to one end but don't also move the rack/sequencer devices or re-sync everything, then drag audio into the sequencer, the audio channel in the mixer will appear where it was dragged but there will be another channel after it (because it was last in the sequencer, but second to last in the mixer). That is to say, the audio will be "after" the channel where you dragged it BUT there may be other channels "after" the new audio channel (making things look "odd").

So the "tip" would be to keep things in sync by not moving them around (or syncing after they get moved). If you're on a Mac, create a simple key command to make this more painless (and don't forget to ask the props to make "syncing" the order of all three views the default behavior!).

Once things are in sync, things are much more predictable.