Sending MSB or LSB?

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fungames
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Post 17 Mar 2025

I want to use my FA06 as the sound engine with a patch list, will someone please help me?

The midi out device has no program changes, and I did not see a way to send midi CC for MSB LSB. ReaControlMIDI from Cockos did not seem to work, nor did it seem possible to connect it to the midi external instrument - I was able to get my patch list into it.

Any help, please?
-Kyle

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Post 17 Mar 2025

Took me awhile, after a much needed 2hr nap. I finally got it - you send PC, MSB, LSB. What a pain. Please bring patch lists into Reason 14! I beg you. Or open source your rack extension. Is there even a way to program a rack extension with a patch list, that sends midi CC into CV1/CV2 or one that exists already - so I can just select my patch and it will send MSB 89 and MSB 64? Then all I have to do is send the program change first? Heh.

Can I bypass this External Midi Instrument completely if I program my own rack extension with patchlist that sends proper PC, MSB, LSB?

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Post 18 Mar 2025

fungames wrote:
17 Mar 2025
Took me awhile, after a much needed 2hr nap. I finally got it - you send PC, MSB, LSB. What a pain. Please bring patch lists into Reason 14! I beg you. Or open source your rack extension. Is there even a way to program a rack extension with a patch list, that sends midi CC into CV1/CV2 or one that exists already - so I can just select my patch and it will send MSB 89 and MSB 64? Then all I have to do is send the program change first? Heh.

Can I bypass this External Midi Instrument completely if I program my own rack extension with patchlist that sends proper PC, MSB, LSB?
So you want to be able to select/automate the selection of a patch on your Roland fa06 from the Reason sequencer?
I just want to make sure I understand exactly what you need to do here.
I would have thought (but I am not an expert with external midi devices) that just using the MIDI OUT device would allow this?
Others may be able to clarify.
If this is not the case, can you please describe, for example a step by step process of what you would like to be able to do?
Murf.

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Post 18 Mar 2025

Install Roland's software for it and you have full control of your synth. Midi is a flexible thing so you can use it side by side with Reason without disturbing the flow. Create multi patches for your songs or record it as audio track by track, up to you, multitimbrality is not really needed today with unlimited audio tracks.

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Post 18 Mar 2025

bitley wrote:
18 Mar 2025
Install Roland's software for it and you have full control of your synth. Midi is a flexible thing so you can use it side by side with Reason without disturbing the flow. Create multi patches for your songs or record it as audio track by track, up to you, multitimbrality is not really needed today with unlimited audio tracks.
The problem I have is, I plan on getting a Korg Triton and the Korg Triton VST sounds nothing like the real hardware instrument. Also, I am not aware of Roland having control software as a VST for the FA06.

It's just a workstation synth, that you can use the multitimbral on via 16 parts and sequence it with your daw instead of using the boards sequencer to sequence with. I am not trying to use it as a controller, I am trying to use the 16 track multitimbral on it. I think the only way you do that with an FA06 in Reason is a 3rd party extension or using external midi out synth and send in order PC>MSB>LSB everytime you want to change patches on your FA06. I would like to be able to change patches in both directions, but it does not look like the external midi out synth recieves program changes from my FA06.

Tnx

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Post 18 Mar 2025

Correct. Reason ignores incoming pgcg.

Roland has software to control all settings, that's what you use to maximise the FA.

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Post 19 Mar 2025

bitley wrote:
18 Mar 2025
Correct. Reason ignores incoming pgcg.

Roland has software to control all settings, that's what you use to maximise the FA.
I've never seen it offered for my board, what is it called? I've googled it and tried looking for it. Does it not exist?

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Post 19 Mar 2025

Also, Reason does send PC, but not GC. You do not need GC, if you send the proper MSB and LSB with the PC ahead of it.

Also, I have been googling for my whole life on this. There is no Roland software that I can find for the FA06 to use with Reason.

There is just the FA-06 driver, which they never used to give you and told you to use the plug and play, when you begged them for the drivers, they sent you the RTFM PDF, which read use the plug and play, and that there were no drivers available!!!

They did not add the downle-able drivers for like years later, because too many people complained about plug and play.

I wish you would tell me what this magical software is, because I've never seen it offered from Roland for my FA-06.

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Post 19 Mar 2025

Are you sure about this? I believe they usually do that. I'll check, or you can look too on rolandus.com

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Seems you are right, that was strange, for 5080, Fantom S and more there are Roland editors.

Here's something though if you have a PC!

https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9pns3 ... n-US&gl=US

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Post 19 Mar 2025

Looks great, I am thinking about trying it!

Do you think we can use it with 16 different tracks in Reason? Will it receive midi? Or what were your thoughts here, to just program change with it and save it as the same song name as your Reason Song name?

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