Snapdragon X Elite and Reason?

[Marc Swing]

Am planning to invest in a new laptop and have been looking at this new Snapdragon X Elite chipset.

What do you guys think? Will Reason perform well on these new ARM based chipsets? Are these new ARM based chipsets the future?

They claim that they are similar in performance to M1 M2 etc

It also has this emulation similar to rosetta for mac for programs that don't natively support ARM but the question is how well does this really perform in practice?

I have looked at a few different laptops that have this new chipset, but so far, unfortunately, no alternative has appeared that meets the specifications and requirements that i am looking for.

Either it has the right amount of RAM (32 GB or higher) but with the worse chipset (X1E-78-100 or X1E-80-100) or vice versa it has the right chipset (X1E-84-100) but only 16 GB RAM .

The requirements im looking for will be:

• Preferably 17 inch screen but 15 - 16 inch can also work

• Snapdragon X Elite (the X1E-84-100 version)

• At least 32 GB of RAM or more

• At least 1 tb NVMe hard drive (preferably 2 TB or 2 slots where you can have 1 TB each)

[PhillipOrdonez]

Yeah arm is the future. I'm also interested, though less so than the mac ones (windows 11 is such bullshit). Keeping an eye on them though, as money isn't growing on trees over here.

Haven't seen the first music production review of these Qualcomm chips yet, hope they start flowing soon. Will post as soon as I see any, it won't be reason though, i doubt they will be the first to appear. In fact, after years of the introduction of the m chips, i don't think I've seen any mention of reason in any review video about them, so ‍♂️

[Marc Swing]

Yeah arm is the future. I'm also interested, though less so than the mac ones (windows 11 is such bullshit). Keeping an eye on them though, as money isn't growing on trees over here.

Haven't seen the first music production review of these Qualcomm chips yet, hope they start flowing soon. Will post as soon as I see any, it won't be reason though, i doubt they will be the first to appear. In fact, after years of the introduction of the m chips, i don't think I've seen any mention of reason in any review video about them, so ‍♂️

Exactly! you don't want to invest in a new laptop and then get it home and realize that you can't even use Reason on it or that it would perform worse than the laptop you already own.

[PhillipOrdonez]

Yeah arm is the future. I'm also interested, though less so than the mac ones (windows 11 is such bullshit). Keeping an eye on them though, as money isn't growing on trees over here.

Haven't seen the first music production review of these Qualcomm chips yet, hope they start flowing soon. Will post as soon as I see any, it won't be reason though, i doubt they will be the first to appear. In fact, after years of the introduction of the m chips, i don't think I've seen any mention of reason in any review video about them, so ‍♂️

Exactly! you don't want to invest in a new laptop and then get it home and realize that you can't even use Reason on it or that it would perform worse than the laptop you already own.

Fingers crossed we'll get to see reason in action under the translation layer. My guess is it'll work about as well as it does currently on the Intel architecture if not better, but not as well as if it was native‍♂️ really doubt it won't work at all or worse than currently!

[Pepin]

In contrast to Apple's approach, I would not expect Microsoft to drop Intel compatibility or deprecate the translation layer any time soon. This means companies will have less incentive to build natively for ARM.

Basically, I would not buy it anticipating a native Reason build any time soon.

[mikasa]

Your desired specifications are quite specific, and it appears challenging to find a laptop meeting all these criteria. You might need to weigh trade-offs between chipset performance and RAM/storage capacity or consider waiting for more options to become available. Retro Bowl College

[Marc Swing]

Your desired specifications are quite specific, and it appears challenging to find a laptop meeting all these criteria. You might need to weigh trade-offs between chipset performance and RAM/storage capacity or consider waiting for more options to become available. Retro Bowl College

Well, I've read a bit and looked around and concluded that the Snapdragon X Elite will unfortunately not be an alternative because most softwear/developers/sound cards/drivers do not support their ARM architecture, which is a shame.

I have an Apollo Twin X USB sound card and their drivers only support Intel/AMD chips.

So it leans more towards the new Intel or AMD chips coming this year (leaning mostly towards AMD)

As I said, I want a very powerful laptop that can handle everything I throw at it. (unfortunately not Mac, they are good machines but can't handle going from Windows to Mac OS)

I really like Microsoft's laptop, they have a clean design and everything, but unfortunately they went all in on Snapdragon right now, so I will wait until they have more alternatives to be able to choose different processors such as the new AMD or Intel.

[Pepin]

It looks like Arm support is actually coming this year. The news came out in October, but it seems to have slipped by unnoticed (or I missed the thread?)

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/windows- ... n-windows/

Reason Studios Reason on Arm64
Reason is another app with long history and dedicated fan-base, having made a name for itself with the intuitive layout and the Rack Extensions plugin support. We’re excited to announce that Reason will be coming to Windows on Arm next year, starting with a version running under the Prism emulator, and following on with a native port after that.

[Marc Swing]

It looks like Arm support is actually coming this year. The news came out in October, but it seems to have slipped by unnoticed (or I missed the thread?)

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/windows- ... n-windows/

Reason Studios Reason on Arm64
Reason is another app with long history and dedicated fan-base, having made a name for itself with the intuitive layout and the Rack Extensions plugin support. We’re excited to announce that Reason will be coming to Windows on Arm next year, starting with a version running under the Prism emulator, and following on with a native port after that.

Nice but i went with the Asus Proart P16 maxed out with 64gb ram and i'm really happy with it

[PhillipOrdonez]

Nice! It sounds like it’ll take longer with windows but it will get there. Maybe the next computer you get will be arm based, Marc Swing?

Mine will be, I’m ready to drop Windows

[Marc Swing]

Nice! It sounds like it’ll take longer with windows but it will get there. Maybe the next computer you get will be arm based, Marc Swing?

Mine will be, I’m ready to drop Windows

No idea, probably won't be buying a new laptop for a while (this one is very powerful and will last for a long time to come)

[PhillipOrdonez]

Yeah and hopefully by then the transition would be complete.

[jam-s]

I'd rather love to see a linux (arm) port of Reason, but having something for small mobile devices running Win on arm is a step into that direction. I think the past refactoring and updates of the graphic pipeline hopefully got reason to be pretty much only dependent on the LLVM and just some little glue code for the individual OS UI libs.
If they've got this implemented now, adding new ports for new OS versions, linux, or even embedded OS should be more realistic now.