Trying to decide between these 5 controllers...

[gkillmaster]

I don't care about having keys, I care about the MIDI and DAW controls in Reason. I also use Bitwig interchangeable so good Bitwig integration is a plus (but not a necessity). I don't need the pads, but don't mind them. Interested in DAW transport control and rack device control and using it to send continuous controller data.
Thanks for any opinions on these!

https://nektartech.com/panorama-p1/
https://nektartech.com/impact-lx-mini/

https://novationmusic.com/en/launch/launch-control-xl
https://novationmusic.com/en/keys/launchkey-mini

https://www.arturia.com/products/hybrid ... i/overview

[Rising Night Wave]

hi gkillmaster. sorry for a post from me that is irelevant. hehe. sorry okey.
i checked your 5 links and found exactly what i would like to have.
omfg it is cool and gorgeous piece of hardware. a midi controller.

this!: https://www.arturia.com/products/hybrid ... i/overview
the KeyLab MkII 49 version black. hay yay yay yay yay.

omg i want to have this!

[QVprod]

If DAW control is the primary thing you want then the P1 is the clear winner. Nektar is the only one with deep integration with both Reason and Bitwig. The LX series controllers is a step down from the panorama line.

[MrFigg]

If DAW control is the primary thing you want then the P1 is the clear winner. Nektar is the only one with deep integration with both Reason and Bitwig. The LX series controllers is a step down from the panorama line.

Yep. And the Arturia one doesn’t sit right with Reason if I remember correctly. It does look nice though.
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[Rising Night Wave]

If DAW control is the primary thing you want then the P1 is the clear winner. Nektar is the only one with deep integration with both Reason and Bitwig. The LX series controllers is a step down from the panorama line.

Yep. And the Arturia one doesn’t sit right with Reason if I remember correctly. It does look nice though.
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7518072&hilit=Arturia+keylb

i checked on official site for arturia - that one i like like wow much - and in list of supported daws there was no Reason. so... i can hang my self. fv**!
ps: if this midi controller is not officialy supported by arturia - is there any way to connect it with Reason DAW?

[gkillmaster]

Thanks everyone! I was also thinking of the Arturia Keystep Pro. It sounds amazing as a controller with a great sequencer but I'd be paying for a keyboard and I already have 4 keyboards...

[gkillmaster]

O, and after some reading, seems like I should add the Korg NanoKontrol2 !

[gullum]

for daw only controls I would go with something that has motorized faders and endless encoders
any of the Icon Qcon series or the Behringer X-touch or Faderport. you could go Makie or SSL but they are to expensive for what you get. No matter witch one you get you will need to do some mapping as most of the remote mapps that come with Reason are sooo outdated

[gkillmaster]

for daw only controls I would go with something that has motorized faders and endless encoders
any of the Icon Qcon series or the Behringer X-touch or Faderport. you could go Makie or SSL but they are to expensive for what you get. No matter witch one you get you will need to do some mapping as most of the remote mapps that come with Reason are sooo outdated

Thanks, hadn't thought about these. The Behringer X-Touch One looks really good but wish it had a couple rotary controllers I could use to send MIDI continuous controller data. Makes me wonder if the Behringer X-Touch Mini-Ultra would be a good choice (though not motorized) over the nanoKontrol2. Yeh, I do want some MIDI control with the DAW control if possible. I like the way the Behringers have a switch from DAW to instrument control. I do wonder about compatibility with Reason (and Bitwig) with the Faderport.

[gkillmaster]

Does the Icon Nano control MIDI CCs?

[polysix]

If DAW control is the primary thing you want then the P1 is the clear winner. Nektar is the only one with deep integration with both Reason and Bitwig. The LX series controllers is a step down from the panorama line.

The last firmware for P Series is two years old. I Do not know if nektar brings in the future a bug fix version... Seems to go end with support...?? A nice controller but with no future support... I don't know..

[gullum]

I do have the X-Touch mini and its grate the 2 layers give it 16 knobs and they are endless so for continuous controller data it should be perfect. The Behringer X-Touch One would be good if combined with an Behringer X-Touch ex for the added faders and knobs.

[gkillmaster]

I do have the X-Touch mini and its grate the 2 layers give it 16 knobs and they are endless so for continuous controller data it should be perfect. The Behringer X-Touch One would be good if combined with an Behringer X-Touch ex for the added faders and knobs.

Thanks! How well is the X-Touch series integrated into Reason (and also Bitwig)? I'm drawn to the Nektar cause of the great deep integration. I've struggled in the past to get things to integrate well and it has kept me from getting a flow going.

Looks like the X-Touch One does have one rotary encoder. Can it be used to send MIDI cc?

[gkillmaster]

If DAW control is the primary thing you want then the P1 is the clear winner. Nektar is the only one with deep integration with both Reason and Bitwig. The LX series controllers is a step down from the panorama line.

The last firmware for P Series is two years old. I Do not know if nektar brings in the future a bug fix version... Seems to go end with support...?? A nice controller but with no future support... I don't know..

I was actually wondering about this. Thanks for the info. I see that the P1 was released in 2013, so almost 10 years old. Doesn't mean it won't be useful but it does worry me a bit to spend $300 on a device that has been around that long and not updated recently.

[QVprod]

If DAW control is the primary thing you want then the P1 is the clear winner. Nektar is the only one with deep integration with both Reason and Bitwig. The LX series controllers is a step down from the panorama line.

The last firmware for P Series is two years old. I Do not know if nektar brings in the future a bug fix version... Seems to go end with support...?? A nice controller but with no future support... I don't know..

True about the firmware. But it’s still unbeaten in integration with both DAWs. It’s also still being sold which means it’ll likely be supported for the near future. Nektar doesn’t seem too interested in creating a successor. My P6 still works well after almost 10 years of having it.

[gkillmaster]

The last firmware for P Series is two years old. I Do not know if nektar brings in the future a bug fix version... Seems to go end with support...?? A nice controller but with no future support... I don't know..

True about the firmware. But it’s still unbeaten in integration with both DAWs. It’s also still being sold which means it’ll likely be supported for the near future. Nektar doesn’t seem too interested in creating a successor. My P6 still works well after almost 10 years of having it.

Thanks! Great to hear.

[demt]

For integrated drums the nektar aura but it's not stand alone

[gkillmaster]

I ended up finding a P1 for $200 and am so far very happy with it (though faders have a cheap feel to them). Between Carly's mappings and Nektarine, life in my studio has gotten much easier! It boiled down to a choice between the P1 and the Behringer X-Touch and I really wanted to deep device intergration. Nektarine works so well for me in Bitwig with VSTs too.