Which DAW should I get to replace Reason? (Windows only)

Want to talk about music hardware or software that doesn't include Reason?

Which DAW will be the best/easiest to transition to from Reason?

Ableton Live
22
22%
Bitwig
27
27%
Cakewalk
5
5%
Cubase
10
10%
Fruity Loops
4
4%
Pro Tools
2
2%
Reaper
9
9%
Studio One
9
9%
Other
11
11%
 
Total votes: 99
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avasopht
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Post 04 Oct 2021

Try them out.

Studio One, Bitwig, Live and Reaper all have decent trials.

No matter what people advise you, it all comes down to which one works best with you.

You might be better to Reaper's workflow, or vibe more with Bitwig's clips and integration with the Presonus Atom.

My recommendation is to also try out the DAWs with their respective controllers.

When I wanted to try out Live I bought an Ableton Push 1 and then later Push 2, as well as a Launchpad Pro (think I also got a Launchpad mini).

Right now I have Maschine mk3 (along with Komplete Ultimate to get the full NI experience), Studio One Artist (but without any Presonus control surfaces) and Reason. The control surfaces can bring it all to another level depending on your workflow.
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Post 04 Oct 2021

No such thing as a replacement. Perhaps consider an augment. I use different programs for different things. The said Studio One sn my go to and even has some 'Reason-like' functions such as the arranger track (Blocks) and Multi-instrument (combinator). The default key commands for tools are also similar being the row of numbers just above the QWERTY keys used for Reason in the sequencer with the option to customize..

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Post 04 Oct 2021

Creativemind wrote: ↑
18 Sep 2021
People still call it Fruity Loops? it's been called FL Studio for 18 years. 🀣
:clap: Doesn't the F and L still stand for Fruity Loops though?

Fl Studio...Fruity Loops Studio...No matter how you church it up, it's still what it is
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Post 04 Oct 2021

I think it depends on how you like to work. Essentially all of the Daws work the same but they all specialize in something a little better than the other. I've used a lot of DAWS and often have to have a lot of when working with clients who prefer proprietary project files.

If I had to choose a few to throw out there that are good to work in I’d go with (in no order)

Cubase
Reaper
Digital Performer
Logic X
Maybe Ableton...maybe

The one thing that's hard to find in other daws is Reason Production Tools. Good thing it's a plugin though.
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Post 04 Oct 2021

It's always loopy loop loops of fruit to me

I voted Bitwig as that is where I would go with the smoothest sense of staying alive. Definitely feel the closest to the sense of 'we are one' that Reason has. interesting to see that I am not the only one.

Otherwise Studio One is really nice too.

DP is interesting, esp seeing my Opcode Vision background when V & DP were neck & neck) but it is a whole other ball of wax so probably fails hugely on the seamless transition front. Same with Reaper (that I had to pony for to get those high-track-count mixes done and paid).

:-)

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Post 04 Oct 2021

I think the choice depends on your way to work and make music. So if you record a lot and work mainly with stems S1 might be the better option. For experimental and mostly midi based I think Bitwig is a good choice as it is quite a bit more modern and pleasing from the UI in comparison to Ableton live and also has a modular playground a bit like Reason.
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Post 05 Oct 2021

Greg Savage wrote: ↑
04 Oct 2021
Creativemind wrote: ↑
18 Sep 2021
People still call it Fruity Loops? it's been called FL Studio for 18 years. 🀣
:clap: Doesn't the F and L still stand for Fruity Loops though?

Fl Studio...Fruity Loops Studio...No matter how you church it up, it's still what it is
Technically yes but it's called FL Studio. People are still (although very rare) still calling Reason Studio's "Props" on some Facebook pages and forums lol! Never understood Props cause they were never Propellerheads anyway, it was Propellerhead, so technically they should've been referred to as Prop lol!
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Post 06 Oct 2021

Creativemind wrote: ↑
05 Oct 2021
Greg Savage wrote: ↑
04 Oct 2021


:clap: Doesn't the F and L still stand for Fruity Loops though?

Fl Studio...Fruity Loops Studio...No matter how you church it up, it's still what it is
Technically yes but it's called FL Studio. People are still (although very rare) still calling Reason Studio's "Props" on some Facebook pages and forums lol! Never understood Props cause they were never Propellerheads anyway, it was Propellerhead, so technically they should've been referred to as Prop lol!
'Props', gotta love that :lol:. That's right up there with 'Reasons'
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Post 06 Oct 2021

Props = Propellerhead people - collectively as in plural peoples which has no "s" in this usage but puts one on the affectionate form.

"RSers" or even simple "RS" somehow does seem to have the elegance.
Besides we tend to stay with the first impression we have of something/someone - esp if we preferred them that way ;-)

:-)

p.s. It is not like the advert for "AI Intelligence" music-making soft (in the head) ware. Or people who talk about CD discs. ATM machines...

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Post 07 Oct 2021

Creativemind wrote: ↑
18 Sep 2021
People still call it Fruity Loops? it's been called FL Studio for 18 years. 🀣
Yeah, but Fruity Loops Studio sounds so much more fun. FL is *yawn*
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Post 07 Oct 2021

Greg Savage wrote: ↑
06 Oct 2021
Creativemind wrote: ↑
05 Oct 2021


Technically yes but it's called FL Studio. People are still (although very rare) still calling Reason Studio's "Props" on some Facebook pages and forums lol! Never understood Props cause they were never Propellerheads anyway, it was Propellerhead, so technically they should've been referred to as Prop lol!
'Props', gotta love that :lol:. That's right up there with 'Reasons'
:lol:

Here in the U.K people for some reason are always pluraling supermarkets and I often correct them lol! Lidl's or Aldi's.
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Post 07 Oct 2021

tronam wrote: ↑
07 Oct 2021
Creativemind wrote: ↑
18 Sep 2021
People still call it Fruity Loops? it's been called FL Studio for 18 years. 🀣
Yeah, but Fruity Loops Studio sounds so much more fun. FL is *yawn*
I never understood why they had to change the name as apparently Kellogg's tried sueing them but the cereal isn't called Fruity Loops, they're called Froot Loops both words with double o's so different?
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Post 07 Oct 2021

Creativemind wrote: ↑
07 Oct 2021
tronam wrote: ↑
07 Oct 2021

Yeah, but Fruity Loops Studio sounds so much more fun. FL is *yawn*
I never understood why they had to change the name as apparently Kellogg's tried sueing them but the cereal isn't called Fruity Loops, they're called Froot Loops both words with double o's so different?
Very simple, they violated Kellogg's trademark. Generally when a company creates a name/name for their products they trademark variations of it as well. When it's violated a cease and desist notice goes out of some sort and Imageline obliged.
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Post 07 Oct 2021

Greg Savage wrote: ↑
07 Oct 2021
Very simple, they violated Kellogg's trademark. Generally when a company creates a name/name for their products they trademark variations of it as well. When it's violated a cease and desist notice goes out of some sort and Imageline obliged.
They didn't "violate" it.

Kellogs overstepped their trademark.

The Froot Loops trademark only covered foods and drinks. They didn't have a legitimate case. It's just that Image-Line at the time didn't (and probably couldn't afford to) fight against it.

IL said that they also felt the "Loops" might have given people the wrong impression and associated it with the loop players of the day such as Dance Ejay.
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Post 07 Oct 2021

avasopht wrote: ↑
07 Oct 2021
Greg Savage wrote: ↑
07 Oct 2021
Very simple, they violated Kellogg's trademark. Generally when a company creates a name/name for their products they trademark variations of it as well. When it's violated a cease and desist notice goes out of some sort and Imageline obliged.
They didn't "violate" it.

Kellogs overstepped their trademark.

The Froot Loops trademark only covered foods and drinks. They didn't have a legitimate case. It's just that Image-Line at the time didn't (and probably couldn't afford to) fight against it.

IL said that they also felt the "Loops" might have given people the wrong impression and associated it with the loop players of the day such as Dance Ejay.
Okay :thumbs_up:
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Post 07 Oct 2021

ReNoise! :)

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Post 07 Oct 2021

Benedict wrote: ↑
06 Oct 2021
"RSers" or even simple "RS" somehow does seem to have the elegance.
Perhaps aRSes? Certainly works for the UK sense of humour. :D

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Post 07 Oct 2021

I understand, and while I may feel that at times with their spacing of support issues and bug creation versions that rival Apple, I think it may lead to less positive outcomes ;-)

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Post 08 Oct 2021

Greg Savage wrote: ↑
07 Oct 2021
Creativemind wrote: ↑
07 Oct 2021


I never understood why they had to change the name as apparently Kellogg's tried sueing them but the cereal isn't called Fruity Loops, they're called Froot Loops both words with double o's so different?
Very simple, they violated Kellogg's trademark. Generally when a company creates a name/name for their products they trademark variations of it as well. When it's violated a cease and desist notice goes out of some sort and Imageline obliged.
Fair enough.
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Post 08 Oct 2021

Bitwig is my new go to the last several months. There's something about the interface and the way plugins are sandboxed that really makes other DAWs feel like they're in the stone age. I hope RS takes a few tips from those guys..

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Post 08 Oct 2021

Honestly can't tell you. There's nothing to replace Reason's workflow so it literally comes down to what you're looking to get out of it . . . and then you're Windows only.
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Post 11 Oct 2021

I looked AL but the layout was bland unless you have big monitor screens the text was small to my eyes I didn't get on with it
it was only a brief so i don't want to put it down, then I checked out Studio One i love you can do colour codes for track lanes mixer channels etc , i agree nothing I seen is like Reason so any DAW you going to go for is going to be different, but its not a bad thing trying to get your teeth into something new,
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