MPC LIVE.. II

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Post 15 May 2020


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Post 15 May 2020

O1B wrote:
15 May 2020

Good Overview:
True story: decided to sell my MPC Live 1 and get the 2 late last night. Listed my Live 1 for sale; it sold in under an hour! Decided to go to bed - Guitar Center had them in stock and ready to ship. Got up this morning and went to order the Live 2 - ALL ON BACK ORDER!!! It sold out in less than a day almost everywhere! :shock: :o :( :redface:

So now I have to sit on a pre-order at Sweetwater and wait for more to come in. Rep says they're supposed to get more at the end of the month, but we'll see how that pans out. I'm not confident I'll see it anytime soon.. :(
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Post 16 May 2020

That sounds like it'll be y story.

Bought and sold the MPC Live I - twice! Then I got the ONE (CV)
This is Great News. Now, I can learn the HELL out of my ONE.

But. SHIT!!! I didn't know it was available yet! Damn! Guess Ill be waiting, too.

On another note: Has the Keystep Pros been able to start shipping - from KANSAS??? They all seem to be in Warehouses on Covid lockdown.
EnochLight wrote:
15 May 2020
O1B wrote:
15 May 2020

Good Overview:
True story: decided to sell my MPC Live 1 and get the 2 late last night. Listed my Live 1 for sale; it sold in under an hour! Decided to go to bed - Guitar Center had them in stock and ready to ship. Got up this morning and went to order the Live 2 - ALL ON BACK ORDER!!! It sold out in less than a day almost everywhere! :shock: :o :( :redface:

So now I have to sit on a pre-order at Sweetwater and wait for more to come in. Rep says they're supposed to get more at the end of the month, but we'll see how that pans out. I'm not confident I'll see it anytime soon.. :(

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Post 16 May 2020

O1B wrote:
16 May 2020
That sounds like it'll be my story.

Bought and sold the MPC Live I - twice! Then I got the ONE (CV)
This is Great News. Now, I can learn the HELL out of my ONE.

But. SHIT!!! I didn't know it was available yet! Damn! Guess Ill be waiting, too.

On another note: Has the Keystep Pros been able to start shipping - from KANSAS??? They all seem to be in Warehouses on Covid lockdown.
EnochLight wrote:
15 May 2020


True story: decided to sell my MPC Live 1 and get the 2 late last night. Listed my Live 1 for sale; it sold in under an hour! Decided to go to bed - Guitar Center had them in stock and ready to ship. Got up this morning and went to order the Live 2 - ALL ON BACK ORDER!!! It sold out in less than a day almost everywhere! :shock: :o :( :redface:

So now I have to sit on a pre-order at Sweetwater and wait for more to come in. Rep says they're supposed to get more at the end of the month, but we'll see how that pans out. I'm not confident I'll see it anytime soon.. :(

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Post 16 May 2020

O1B wrote:
16 May 2020
On another note: Has the Keystep Pros been able to start shipping - from KANSAS??? They all seem to be in Warehouses on Covid lockdown.
I don't know anything about the Keystep Pro, sorry!
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Post 16 May 2020

On a Maschine Mikro and really interested in the AKAI MPC stuff. Basically looking at it for Boom Bap stuff and drums. Any suggestions what I should go with? Some Pros and Cons as well? FYI I will be getting a Maschine MK3
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On a Maschine Mikro and really interested in the AKAI MPC stuff. Basically looking at it for Boom Bap stuff and drums. Any suggestions what I should go with? Some Pros and Cons as well? FYI I will be getting a Maschine MK3
(warning: long ass soapbox speech incoming)... :puf_bigsmile: :lol:

Literally the *ONLY* reason to go with one of the current gen MPC's is for true standalone functionality, IMHO - as the MPC Software that runs on your computer is really just a utility app not conducive to inspirational creation. If you desire to get away from your computer and not be tethered, then the MPC Live 2 or One is a great option. The integrated Touch User Interface has matured brilliantly since release back in 2016 (making its first appearance on the MPC Touch), and Akai frequently updates the firmware each year introducing new features, and always for free. We usually see at least 2, sometimes 3 updates per year.

And the latest 2.8 firmware introduces proper multitibral MIDI, so you can really use your MPC as the center of your hardware setup if so inclined.

I'm not knocking Maschine, but it's not even in the same category as you have to be tethered to a computer to use it. That makes Maschine infinitely more powerful by default, as you'll always have access to your DAW - hence any plugin and sample library you want. But the trade-off is being stuck hooked to a computer.

There really is nothing like picking up your MPC Live, heading out to the patio or backyard, or a park, or the beach, or anywhere you WANT, with a set of cans and just creating. Sitting on the couch; having your morning coffee at the kitchen table. It's just awesome.
Computers have so many distractions, and sometime it's just nice to not have to worry about looking at a computer display.
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Post 16 May 2020

EnochLight wrote:
16 May 2020
Kalm wrote:
16 May 2020
On a Maschine Mikro and really interested in the AKAI MPC stuff. Basically looking at it for Boom Bap stuff and drums. Any suggestions what I should go with? Some Pros and Cons as well? FYI I will be getting a Maschine MK3
(warning: long ass soapbox speech incoming)... :puf_bigsmile: :lol:

Literally the *ONLY* reason to go with one of the current gen MPC's is for true standalone functionality, IMHO - as the MPC Software that runs on your computer is really just a utility app not conducive to inspirational creation. If you desire to get away from your computer and not be tethered, then the MPC Live 2 or One is a great option. The integrated Touch User Interface has matured brilliantly since release back in 2016 (making its first appearance on the MPC Touch), and Akai frequently updates the firmware each year introducing new features, and always for free. We usually see at least 2, sometimes 3 updates per year.

And the latest 2.8 firmware introduces proper multitibral MIDI, so you can really use your MPC as the center of your hardware setup if so inclined.

I'm not knocking Maschine, but it's not even in the same category as you have to be tethered to a computer to use it. That makes Maschine infinitely more powerful by default, as you'll always have access to your DAW - hence any plugin and sample library you want. But the trade-off is being stuck hooked to a computer.

There really is nothing like picking up your MPC Live, heading out to the patio or backyard, or a park, or the beach, or anywhere you WANT, with a set of cans and just creating. Sitting on the couch; having your morning coffee at the kitchen table. It's just awesome.
Computers have so many distractions, and sometime it's just nice to not have to worry about looking at a computer display.
Noted. Thanks for that. I never really make music on the go or somewhere because it’s always been uncomfortable for me and I can never get all my ideas out without having everything at my disposable. So it sounds like I won’t benefit much with AKAI unless I find a new revelation of producing on the go lol
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Post 16 May 2020

You can also use the NEW MPCs in Controller Mode and have access to all your plugins including Native Instruments plugins. In Controller Mode the MPC X/Live/ Live ll/One are more powerful. Plus you have audio tracks in stand alone.

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Post 16 May 2020

True, though standalone audio tracks are limited to a total of 8 and no more than 5 minutes in length. They’ll get truncated at 5 minutes, which is a sore lesson for those who aren’t aware.
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Post 28 May 2020

True, but most RnB, Pop, Country, HipHop and Smooth Jazz songs and tracks aren’t 5 minutes long.

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Post 29 May 2020

dmcghee wrote:
28 May 2020
True, but most RnB, Pop, Country, HipHop and Smooth Jazz songs and tracks aren’t 5 minutes long.
No, but with an MPC you are more likely to make Blue Monday than Candle In The Wind. Except with a 5 minute limit you might have to call it Blue Mo. Given how cheap memory and SSD storage are the 5 min limit does seem a bit stingy in this day and age.

I occasionally try going mobile, talking the laptop or even just the iPad somewhere else with the fantasy that it will inspire different stuff but it almost always ends up with me getting frustrated that I don't have the full arsenal of weaponry at my fingertips and that I just can't get very much on the screen at once. I'd probably have the same feeling with an MPC.

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Post 29 May 2020

DaveyG wrote:
29 May 2020

Except with a 5 minute limit you might have to call it Blue Mo.
Hahah - this made me chuckle. :lol:
DaveyG wrote:
29 May 2020

Given how cheap memory and SSD storage are the 5 min limit does seem a bit stingy in this day and age.
Just so we understand the actual issue, the cost or amount of RAM and SSD storage isn’t the issue; far less powerful machines can do disc streaming just fine with far less amounts of RAM. The Elektron and Deluge are two that come to mind. The problem is that Akai simply hasn’t designed the OS and firmware in standalone to do it - which is just mind boggling since classic Akai samplers could disc stream via SCSI drives 20 years ago. :o :shock: :? This is something that users have been requesting and Akai has hinted as being worked on. Seeing as how they finally addressed multitimbral MIDI in 2.8, there’s a lot of hope that by 3.0 we’ll see proper disc streaming implementation.
DaveyG wrote:
29 May 2020

I occasionally try going mobile, talking the laptop or even just the iPad somewhere else with the fantasy that it will inspire different stuff but it almost always ends up with me getting frustrated that I don't have the full arsenal of weaponry at my fingertips and that I just can't get very much on the screen at once. I'd probably have the same feeling with an MPC.
I dunno - I think you might be surprised. I also have an iPad, iPhone, and a multitude of iOS apps/plugins and mobile utility hardware (such as a Korg nanoKey Studio controller) and ran into similar frustration as you when I was on the go. I’m frequently held up in hotel rooms with nothing to do and mobile music production is something I prefer to do instead of sitting in my room watching TV.

When I bring my MPC Live, it’s a whole other ballgame. Maybe it’s because it’s a specialized hardware controller that’s extremely well designed; maybe it’s the constraints and shortcomings that force you to be creative - I don’t know. But I’ll tell you this: give me my MPC Live and a mic, and I won’t touch my iPad or even wish I was sitting in front of my studio desktop.

That’s not to say I won’t eventually want to bring my project into Reason (or any DAW of preference) to finish it off, but the initial creative process on the Live is just a blast.
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