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benjified
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Post 01 Dec 2019

Take a look, this Ryzen 3900X build is 2000$, but if you take out the graphics, more like 1500$. This is on par with the Intel i9 9900k or better.

https://premiumbuilds.com/pc-builds/bes ... -pc-build/
I think you need a graphics cards with to go with the 3900X as it is a CPU only, it doesn't have integrated graphics.

AMD does have the 3400G which is an "APU" (basically CPU with integrated graphics) so you won't need a graphics card to go with it. However, it's a lot less powerful than the 3900X and is more so a competitor to the Core i3.

Or go with the 3900X but get a used, lower spec graphics card.

Any advice from anyone going for a Ryzen build? I'm considering something like a 3600 on a B450 motherboard. Should I go for the older B450s or spend more on a newer X575 board? How's audio performance on either? Or does it matter?

reggie1979
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Post 01 Dec 2019

I dunno, but a good VGA card (fanless preferably) is a good idea regardless. It's asking for issues to place the VGA burden on a chip. May work for some but a dedicated card is best traditionally..........

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EnochLight
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Post 02 Dec 2019

Ran for years with integrated video on my 3770K; had no issues whatsoever. It has an Intel HD Graphics 4000 GPU built in and runs pretty damn lean, and is totally silent (something that comes in handy for a studio PC). The only reason I stopped using it was because a friend of mine gifted me an Nvidia GTX 980 Ti for virtually free.
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zoidkirb
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Post 02 Dec 2019

benjified wrote:
01 Dec 2019
Take a look, this Ryzen 3900X build is 2000$, but if you take out the graphics, more like 1500$. This is on par with the Intel i9 9900k or better.

https://premiumbuilds.com/pc-builds/bes ... -pc-build/
I think you need a graphics cards with to go with the 3900X as it is a CPU only, it doesn't have integrated graphics.

AMD does have the 3400G which is an "APU" (basically CPU with integrated graphics) so you won't need a graphics card to go with it. However, it's a lot less powerful than the 3900X and is more so a competitor to the Core i3.

Or go with the 3900X but get a used, lower spec graphics card.

Any advice from anyone going for a Ryzen build? I'm considering something like a 3600 on a B450 motherboard. Should I go for the older B450s or spend more on a newer X575 board? How's audio performance on either? Or does it matter?
I went for a cheap x575 (asus prime) instead of an older b450. There's probably no real world difference but I figured the x570 should have more upgradeability for future proofing and the price difference was negligible. Ryzen seems to crave fast ram more than Intel so I went for 3600mhz stuff to go with my 3600 cpu. M2 drives are really affordable and worth it imo. Performance is good, I can really load up heavy projects and it's stable. 64 frames buffer gives round trip latency of about 10ms (5 input) on my gen 1 Scarlett interface. I'm happy with that for now but I'd prefer to upgrade that card one day too.

reggie1979
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Post 02 Dec 2019

AT 64 my Babyface pro is just over 4ms roundtrip. Expensive but worth it.

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diminished
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Post 02 Dec 2019

So is my Behringer for 100 bucks at 192kHz/64smp...
Edit: also at 96kHz..
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pushedbutton
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Post 02 Dec 2019

I've built a couple but the one i use now I had built for me. There's arguments to follow both avenues but I think most people here would agree that an off the shelf prebuilt system is probably not worth it. Do your research and tell your supplier what you need. Usually getting them to build it for a few quid is worth the support and lack of stress. I had a bent pin on one of my usb ports which took a few days to discover but they were happy to swap the part out, if I'd have done it myself it would have been a different story.
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reggie1979
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Post 03 Dec 2019

diminished wrote:
02 Dec 2019
So is my Behringer for 100 bucks at 192kHz/64smp...
Edit: also at 96kHz..
:roll:

Um, @ 44.1. IF your card can handle that (which I doubt) it's not even close to mine. Nice try.

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diminished
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Post 03 Dec 2019

[pointless and off-topic]
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Post 03 Dec 2019

Reported latency is different to actual real time latency.

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