Sold my MPC Live and picked up an Elektron Digitakt

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Post 19 Jul 2019

I spent the time over the past few months and learned the ins-and-outs of using the MPC Live, but ironically given the name of the product, it just wasn't doing it for me as a live performance unit. I used it successfully as a hub for live performances, but most of the "magic" was coming from other devices like my Circuit Mono Station.

The gigs I've been doing with just a Digitone and a Circuit Mono Station have been much more lively sounding and have had a more flexible feel that when I include the MPC. My thought is that with the Digitakt, I can bring samples and a more dedicated drum sequencer back into the mix without losing the fun and mojo I've been getting from the synths.

So far, so good. It sounds bright, but beefy just like the Digitone, and I already know 90% of the workflow, so I'm already diving in and creating some stuff.

Blended together, the 'takt and 'tone are sounding really good and I'm loving the unified workflow of using two almost identical feeling but very different sounding devices.

Yep, I have definitely swallowed the Elektron kool-aid.

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Post 20 Jul 2019

My current sweet, sweet live rig:

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Post 20 Jul 2019

Lucky! Now I want more things though... 😭

I'm curious to hear the stuff you make!

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Post 20 Jul 2019

PhillipOrdonez wrote:
20 Jul 2019
Lucky! Now I want more things though... 😭

I'm curious to hear the stuff you make!
It's evolving. :D

However, I'm doing a live show tonight (a mood landing party) so I'll see if I can get a video or something.

Hopefully I'm done with electronic noisemaker purchases for a while. :oops:

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Post 20 Jul 2019

Can't wait to finally hear some of this altogether.

In our ongoing symmetry, I actually sold my Akai Force and recently picked up the Analog Four MkII. If you like the Digitone and you like subtractive synths, you really, really ought to give it a spin, because man alive the thing sounds huge. I like it so much that I picked up the Analog Rytm MkII; I'm not sure how much this one will be for me, as it's missing some of my favourite performance features of something like the DrumBrute Impact, but it's also got an insanely powerful analog drum engine, so I'm looking forward to putting it through its paces.

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Post 24 Jul 2019

jayhosking wrote:
20 Jul 2019
Can't wait to finally hear some of this altogether.

In our ongoing symmetry, I actually sold my Akai Force and recently picked up the Analog Four MkII. If you like the Digitone and you like subtractive synths, you really, really ought to give it a spin, because man alive the thing sounds huge. I like it so much that I picked up the Analog Rytm MkII; I'm not sure how much this one will be for me, as it's missing some of my favourite performance features of something like the DrumBrute Impact, but it's also got an insanely powerful analog drum engine, so I'm looking forward to putting it through its paces.
Throwing gas on a fire here! :evil:

I have been eyeing that A4MKII ... I’ll probably wait though, until I really start maxing out the DT/DN/CMS combo. I have a ways to go there, especially now that I’m making legit music with the new Digitakt in the mix.

It’s so much quicker and more natural for me to get compelling drum grooves out of the Digitakt than it ever was the MPC. I don’t know why I always felt like I was fighting the MPC. The Digitone, and now the Digitakt both let me get to good lively sounding stuff without over-thinking.

I did “get” the DT right away, but it took a couple of days of really creating on it to get proficient with the way it manages and mangles samples. It’s great though because now I can take just about any sample that has some elements of what I need and then just mangle it until it’s exactly what I had in mind.

I can make entire tracks with either the DT or DN now, but both together playing to their strengths? :puf_bigsmile: Whooooooooo!

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Post 27 Jul 2019

This is getting crazy in a good way.

To accelerate my music making process, I've managed to connect Reason's players to both the Digitakt and Digitone in one project. This setup allows me to record basic grooves and generative patterns into both devices, giving me some fantastic starting points for new material.

Here is a simple version with a Drum Sequencer out to channel 14 for the Digitakt and a QNG into channels 1-4 of the Digitone.

ReasonDigitaktDigitone.jpg
The MIDI out of my interface is going into the DT, and the MIDI Thru of the DT is going to the MIDI in of the DN. For this purpose, both devices are set to receive sync from Reason.

MIDI channel inputs 1-4 are disabled on the DT so that the QNG output will pass through to the DN without triggering anything on the DT.

Note that in this configuration, lanes 5-8 are muted on the Drum Sequencer because I like recording basic patterns, then leaving tracks 5-8 on the DT open for adding and creating other parts. But no reason you couldn't select sounds for all 8 lanes and record everything in a pattern.

The same can be done with the DT, just record 1 or 2 generated parts, then have another 2 or 3 tracks open for future creation and play.

With Reason and the Elektrons synced, I can press REC on either or both devices, then press PLAY in Reason and the MIDI gets recorded to the boxes, then later in standalone I can modify, add parts and do live performance with the material.

This is a fun way to accelerate and jump-start musical ideas on the hardware.
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Post 27 Jul 2019

Wow, this rabbit hole goes deep! I love it.

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Post 27 Jul 2019

cognitive wrote:
27 Jul 2019
This is getting crazy in a good way.

To accelerate my music making process, I've managed to connect Reason's players to both the Digitakt and Digitone in one project. This setup allows me to record basic grooves and generative patterns into both devices, giving me some fantastic starting points for new material.

Here is a simple version with a Drum Sequencer out to channel 14 for the Digitakt and a QNG into channels 1-4 of the Digitone.


ReasonDigitaktDigitone.jpg

The MIDI out of my interface is going into the DT, and the MIDI Thru of the DT is going to the MIDI in of the DN. For this purpose, both devices are set to receive sync from Reason.

MIDI channel inputs 1-4 are disabled on the DT so that the QNG output will pass through to the DN without triggering anything on the DT.

Note that in this configuration, lanes 5-8 are muted on the Drum Sequencer because I like recording basic patterns, then leaving tracks 5-8 on the DT open for adding and creating other parts. But no reason you couldn't select sounds for all 8 lanes and record everything in a pattern.

The same can be done with the DT, just record 1 or 2 generated parts, then have another 2 or 3 tracks open for future creation and play.

With Reason and the Elektrons synced, I can press REC on either or both devices, then press PLAY in Reason and the MIDI gets recorded to the boxes, then later in standalone I can modify, add parts and do live performance with the material.

This is a fun way to accelerate and jump-start musical ideas on the hardware.
Yes I also find this type of arrangement an easier approach when working with chords and for synth type samples in the digitakt and octatrack. Midi CC control to the Elektron's from Reason is enjoyable as well - LFO everything :).

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Post 02 Aug 2019

cognitive wrote:
27 Jul 2019


Note that in this configuration, lanes 5-8 are muted on the Drum Sequencer because I like recording basic patterns, then leaving tracks 5-8 on the DT open for adding and creating other parts. But no reason you couldn't select sounds for all 8 lanes and record everything in a pattern.

The same can be done with the DT, just record 1 or 2 generated parts, then have another 2 or 3 tracks open for future creation and play.

With Reason and the Elektrons synced, I can press REC on either or both devices, then press PLAY in Reason and the MIDI gets recorded to the boxes, then later in standalone I can modify, add parts and do live performance with the material.

This is a fun way to accelerate and jump-start musical ideas on the hardware.
Does them record the triplets also?
Have you tried add delay to midi and record it?
Does them record those delayed too or they "snap to bar"???
Can you export the midi from them?

Pretty cool devices..

(I use this tecnique on my volca's, but they all snap to bar)

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