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Post 05 Nov 2018

Faastwalker wrote:
05 Nov 2018
Crumbfort wrote:
05 Nov 2018
What kind of stuff are looking looking to do with the ES-8, Faastwalker?
The main thing will be to utilise Reason's many sequencing, modulation sources to send to the modular / Eurorack gear. But it will also be useful to send CV/audio from the outside back in to Reason. I've only got a small Eurorack case (TipTop Audio Happy ending) with 80hp of space + a Kilpatrick Phenol. I'm thinking of concentrating mainly on audio sources & nice analog modules (for example) for the Happy Ending with Reason taking care of the sequencing / modulation stuff. The ES-8 is not cheap & may be a bit overkill for my requirements & small amount of space. The Phenol has a MIDI to CV converter built in. I'm having a lot of fun sending a modulation source from Reason to control stuff outside. It works really well & gives a taste of the sort of things i'll be able to do with more MIDI to CV i/o.
I tried an ES-8 for while (borrowed it from a friend) and it worked great. Mostly used it with reaktor though. Haven't decided if i really need one - it isn't cheap. If you really want to run your modular from your computer and you're into sequencing I guess its the way to go. Hardware sequencers tend to cost much more. For the time being I have found that I prefer to use my modular without a computer, or just with the clock, and then move the audio into the computer. Working with actual knobs and wires and the limitations of a small system is a nice complement working on a computer - it really forces you use what you got...

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Post 06 Nov 2018

ES-8 for Audio.. Yes. But, don't sleep.

AIRA modules (I have Scooper and Demora) are Full stereo, 96K, and a has 6 CV IN/OUT via DAW .
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In truth, I did it to make sure it worked, but I dont normally acquire CV that way.

But for MIDI and Clock... and versatility... Gate, Trigger, etc...Hardware, Software, iOS,...
- the upcoming FH-2 by Expert Sleepers:
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Post 06 Nov 2018

Put the clock on 'em! .... Put the show on Speed! And, Ill chew 'em UP! ........... Chew 'em right UP!

kungubu wrote:
05 Nov 2018
I prefer to use my modular without a computer, or just with the clock, and then move the audio into the computer. Working with actual knobs and wires and the limitations of a small system is a nice complement working on a computer - it really forces you use what you got...
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Antic604 "Well, he's been doing it - mentioning Eurorack hardware - in majority of his posts, so I'm not surprised anymore :? Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:19 pm

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Post 06 Nov 2018

O1B wrote:
06 Nov 2018
ES-8 for Audio.. Yes. But, don't sleep.

AIRA modules (I have Scooper and ) are Full stereo, 96K, and a has 6 CV IN/OUT via DAW .
In truth, I did it to make sure it worked, but I dont normally acquire CV that way.

But for MIDI and Clock... and versatility... Gate, Trigger, etc...Hardware, Software, iOS,...
- the upcoming FH-2 by Expert Sleepers:
Ooooo, another choice for USB - this looks more future proof since it supports USB-C.

Hey, any idea why Roland discontinued the Aira series? I am interested in Demora, but don't want to get stuck with an unsupported product (thinking iOS support).
Also looking at Magneto by Strymon, thoughts?
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Post 06 Nov 2018

Magneto does look really cool. I personally don't have any experience with it as I ended up going with the 4MS Dual Looping Delay (absolutely love it):

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There's a great Divkid video on it as well:


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Post 09 Nov 2018

Roland doesn't tell me anything. But, if I had to guess, the new System 500 line has their attention.
But the stand-alone nature, 96K, Great Sound, and versatility means ill get bitrazer soon enough.
btw, I have Malgorithm MK3 as my Bit and Sample Reduction Mod - fresh from Scott (much appreciated.)
out now... cleaner and quieter...
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About Strymon..,,Strymon wins at Delay - even over MXR, for me.
DIG. Stellar Digital Delay. Reminds me that Bit Reduction on Delay is Good, it's Dual, and it sounds Awesome.

El Capistan. Before Magneto, it was the BEST tape delay pedal I ever heard.
I have Elec-Harmnx Canyon (really nice) , and the MXR Echoplex (tight slapback),
but the Strymons sound 'wetter' to my ears, when you want that.

now..... Koma ... voltronic... tough to get that Sound in Reason, or any pedal:


For that pure, awesome production-level tape delay sound, imo, Magneto is the best there is right now - under $1000 let's say. For tricks n things, the Rainmaker... but the bass preservation through all those effects is questionable.
... pitch, comb, step tap, and Intellijel isn't raved for their filters, afaik....

Selling my Delays to fund Magneto, but Ill keep DIG. Drums and Full Mixes love it!

If you're serious about the Modular thing, I'd consider a few Brands no matter the device/utility
- Serge RANDOM*SOURCE ... all Business.
- ADDAC ... Clean and Quiet ... 601, 802r, 803r, 207, the Heuristic Rhythm Generator..
- Cwejman ... the BEST for Production. Balance, Pan, EQ, DYN, and Shifting, and Voices *Drum/Synth
(Good Luck finding it to check for yourself)
- L-1 ... Same Quality as Cwejman, imo. I have a pair of his Quad EQs.
- Happy Nerding ... Proper 6HP devices for Audio/CV/Pan
- ARREL Audio ... a Proper Mid-side Processor in Eurorack
- Noise Engineering ... They have skill.
- WMD ... Sold on their guitar EQ, then Geiger Counter Pro, then the Mixer with multi-channel to DAW capabilities..
Those Brands have little to do with FX and tricks - (and suspend $$$), and everything to do with Fidelity.

- Mutable, Malekko, Intellijel, Make Noise can't be overlooked.
And, do get yourself a Mordax DATA.

Do it Right, Do it Once!
selig wrote:
06 Nov 2018

Hey, any idea why Roland discontinued the Aira series? I am interested in Demora, but don't want to get stuck with an unsupported product (thinking iOS support).
Also looking at Magneto by Strymon, thoughts?
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Antic604 "Well, he's been doing it - mentioning Eurorack hardware - in majority of his posts, so I'm not surprised anymore :? Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:19 pm

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Post 09 Nov 2018

O1B wrote:
06 Nov 2018
ES-8 for Audio.. Yes. But, don't sleep.

But for MIDI and Clock... and versatility... Gate, Trigger, etc...Hardware, Software, iOS,...
- the upcoming FH-2 by Expert Sleepers:
But don't they both do CV & Audio i/o? FH-2 looks very interesting. Any idea when this will be available?

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Post 09 Nov 2018

Faastwalker wrote:
09 Nov 2018
O1B wrote:
06 Nov 2018
ES-8 for Audio.. Yes. But, don't sleep.

But for MIDI and Clock... and versatility... Gate, Trigger, etc...Hardware, Software, iOS,...
- the upcoming FH-2 by Expert Sleepers:
But don't they both do CV & Audio i/o? FH-2 looks very interesting. Any idea when this will be available?
ES-8 has 8 cv outs (expandable) and 4 audio in. To my knowledge it is the best way to get cv out of your computer to your eurorack. Works great with reaktor. If you want midi there's much cheaper solutions.

Concerning utility modules, strange no-one has mentioned Expert Sleepers Disting. It's not flashy but can perform so many different duties that at least one is a must in any smaller system. A really versatile 4hp module that can work as an osc, lfo, s&h, waveshaper, delay, quantizer, filter, envelope, sampler, etc. and it can also emulate ES-1 and ES-2 as well as convert midi to cv.

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Post 10 Nov 2018

I never saw the FH-2 pass audio.
Release is imminent.


Faastwalker wrote:
09 Nov 2018
O1B wrote:
06 Nov 2018
ES-8 for Audio.. Yes. But, don't sleep.

But for MIDI and Clock... and versatility... Gate, Trigger, etc...Hardware, Software, iOS,...
- the upcoming FH-2 by Expert Sleepers:
But don't they both do CV & Audio i/o? FH-2 looks very interesting. Any idea when this will be available?
Antic604 "Well, he's been doing it - mentioning Eurorack hardware - in majority of his posts, so I'm not surprised anymore :? Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:19 pm

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Post 10 Nov 2018

strange no-one has mentioned Expert Sleepers Disting
not strange at all... there are 100s of modules. I own Disting. I wouldn't ENDORSE it (first)

Whatever you want the Disting to do, you should get a proper module to do it.
It's like the old rack devices. You use MClass to save time, but you're using Softube for Production.

I own the Disting.
It's for redundancies on a small board, to me.

But, it's a sub par Delay, Reverb, LFO/modulator, Sample Player, etc. when it comes to Production,
- and only does 1 thing at a time.

I rarely use it. I usually opt for more dedicated module. But it has it moments!, so I can't see selling it.
.just my take.
kungubu wrote:
09 Nov 2018
ES-8 has 8 cv outs (expandable) and 4 audio in. To my knowledge it is the best way to get cv out of your computer to your eurorack. Works great with reaktor. If you want midi there's much cheaper solutions.

Concerning utility modules, strange no-one has mentioned Expert Sleepers Disting. It's not flashy but can perform so many different duties that at least one is a must in any smaller system. A really versatile 4hp module that can work as an osc, lfo, s&h, waveshaper, delay, quantizer, filter, envelope, sampler, etc. and it can also emulate ES-1 and ES-2 as well as convert midi to cv.
Antic604 "Well, he's been doing it - mentioning Eurorack hardware - in majority of his posts, so I'm not surprised anymore :? Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:19 pm

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Post 12 Nov 2018

O1B wrote:
10 Nov 2018
I never saw the FH-2 pass audio.
Release is imminent.
So it's just CV i/o? That's cool for me as my regular interface already takes care of audio i/o. It's really the CV i/o I'm interested in. It's all about getting cv in & out of Reason for me.

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Post 25 Nov 2018

Finally caught up to this...

Thanks for the heads up, Crumbfort.

Reverb Modules - in my experience - SUCK. So my go-to Reverb Guitar Pedal for Modular is Strymon Blue Sky (Love the Built in High and Low Damp. Priceless:
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maybe, Big Sky....

Magneto is my "future" go-to Multi TAP, Reverb-ish Delay. Clean, and Full Frequency

4ms looks like it makes a Great Dual Delay. I will have to scoop that one up, if I can't find a Modcan.
Absolutely Love the fact that it can Send the "effect" OUT for furtherrrr treatment - like Magneto. Stellar.

Kinda need four "delays" at once...
Reverb (Blue Sky), Slapback (MXR EP103), Tap (Magneto), Dual (4ms/Modcan),..
.... for proper experiementation.


Thinking about this one ... holiday sale... Note the High and Low Cut - one for each "side" of the delay circuit.:
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Crumbfort wrote:
06 Nov 2018
Magneto does look really cool. I personally don't have any experience with it as I ended up going with the 4MS Dual Looping Delay (absolutely love it):

There's a great Divkid video on it as well:
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Post 26 Nov 2018

That ACL Dual Delay looks dope, dang. I agree, having those filters built in would be slick.

Anybody have experience with the 4ms VCA Matrix? I'm really interested in this one:

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https://www.modulargrid.net/e/4ms-company-vca-matrix

I've also been looking at the Doepfer A138m Matrix Mixer. A lot less features than the 4ms, but smaller/cheaper:

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https://www.modulargrid.net/e/doepfer-a-138m

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