Behringer RD-808
Posted: 03 May 2018
I hear two great drummachines with almost the same character. Loosing yourself endlessly in hunting frequency ghosts is nothing but vodoo science. I am really tired from that discussion.
You can do very good electronic rythms with both. One is not only an instrument but an unquestionable legend, rare and expensive. The other is one is very close soundwise, 21st century technology, with a great interface and: unbeatable pricing.
Talk less, make more music!
Faastwalker wrote: ↑04 May 2018Behringer doing what should be painfully obvious to Roland but what they have totally failed to deliver.
The same as everybody else - remake the legend. Not the lurid green Aria stuff. Roland know it I think. That’s why they made the classics ...... but as VA Boutiques. The new Roland stuff sounds fine. But that’s beside the point in this case. We’re talking about the machines the kick started everything we have now no less. It means a lot to people that remakes be authentic and true to the original devices.
There would have been a time. Now though? I think the boat has sailed. But at the right price, and every indicator points to Behringer setting the bar very reasonably on this front, this could could be very tempting for what it is. In terms of sound, style and substance Behringer already look to have gotten as close to the original as anyone since Roland put the thing out.And, were you really going to buy it?
Faastwalker wrote: ↑04 May 2018The same as everybody else - remake the legend. Not the lurid green Aria stuff. Roland know it I think. That’s why they made the classics ...... but as VA Boutiques. The new Roland stuff sounds fine. But that’s beside the point in this case. We’re talking about the machines the kick started everything we have now no less. It means a lot to people that remakes be authentic and true to the original devices.
There would have been a time. Now though? I think the boat has sailed. But at the right price, and every indicator points to Behringer setting the bar very reasonably on this front, this could could be very tempting for what it is. In terms of sound, style and substance Behringer already look to have gotten as close to the original as anyone since Roland put the thing out.And, were you really going to buy it?
Biolumin3sc3nt wrote: ↑06 May 2018The thing that blows my mind on all these 808 emulations is, where is the "tune" knob? I could care less if the original 808 didn't have it ( well i kinda do ) - but holy smokes??? There are after-market kits that can put some subs to shame. The 909 has it, yet, Why?....?
Behringer, I will give You credit for striving to exceed some preconceived notions from the past, but for fucks sakes... lets tweak that bass drum.
I want to tune that so called 808 bass - I'm sure the filter section is great and all, but please....pretty please, I will so buy that drum machine If You can tweak it . Is that Fair?
I do like the banana business, but the erorack format just has too much variety for me to stay in banana land. haha.
Faastwalker wrote: ↑04 May 2018I don’t know how to respond to that other than by posting this latest video from Behringer;
Faastwalker wrote: ↑04 May 2018I don’t know how to respond to that other than by posting this latest video from Behringer;
Faastwalker wrote: ↑06 May 2018You're right. Probably won't buy a Behringer 808 or 101 clone. But they'd integrate into my set-up just fine if I did. MIDI input is fine. Reason is the center of the set-up anyway so for sequencing / controlling it usually comes from there. The Phenol has a built in MIDI to CV converter so easy to sequence from Reason via MIDI. I have a little MFB 552 drum machine. That's controlled from Reason as well. It has a built in sequencer but it's kind of fiddly. Works a treat from Reason using the Robotic Bean Multiplexer.
The point about the Behringer 808 / 101 clones is that people have been hoping Roland would do this for close to quarter of a century. Ever since e-bay prices started to reach the stratosphere people have been wondering when Roland would spot what is going on, basically put the machines out again & clean-up! It's never happened. Not from Roland at least. There have been plenty of other smaller companies making clones. But around 25 years later Behringer are now doing what people have been hoping Roland would do in that time.
People will still get very excited about these. Myself included. But has the boat now sailed? I'm not sure I need or want an 808 in 2018. It would be more about nostalgia these days. Have used all the Roland classics extensively in the past. Never owned any of them but was always a dream. I could just never justify thousands of dollars for a second hand machine that was almost as old as I was! I did buy a Roland-RS09 string/organ synth about a decade ago. Price was still good. Machine arrived looking like it had been in an accident & was a heavy smoker. It worked, just! Out of tune & I never fixed the problems. Sold it for quite a bit more than I'd bought it for. Go figure!