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Thank God for this approach!Gulale wrote:Nah even if it is possible, PH don't allow that. If something is good and valuable, they need a cut. By any means make money out of it.tiker01 wrote:We should let him know about Re.
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Maybe I've completely missed the point...? I'm not sure I get the whole 'looking out for the poor hobbyist musician; protect them from the blood-sucking developers' angle... Developers are people too! I know more awful musicians/recording artists that crack software than I know dishonest or crappy developers. So, musicians can suck it up. That said, I'd much rather support an initiative that supports hard working developers.
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Oh goodie! Wait, but, I don't use VST's. And I don't need any more plug-ins! Still, I like that guy.
*heads back into RE shop.
*heads back into RE shop.
No you have not missed the point joeyluck. However, from my understanding it is not about hating developers. But developers are abusing their authority or knowledge for the sake of money. You will ask them to add one feature they will take forever to come up when they do they will ask you unforgiving price just because you don't have option or you like their product. They make you suffer for liking their product rather than support each other and go hand in hand. If that doesn't work they put astronomical price tag. And the aim is not to sell it the aim is to sell it when it is on sale still with a much lucrative profit. Expensive in the first place! still expensive on sale. Expensive for the majority of the people. So I support him for what he stands and also I support for those who ask fair amount of cash for their product.joeyluck wrote:Maybe I've completely missed the point...? I'm not sure I get the whole 'looking out for the poor hobbyist musician; protect them from the blood-sucking developers' angle... Developers are people too! I know more awful musicians/recording artists that crack software than I know dishonest or crappy developers. So, musicians can suck it up. That said, I'd much rather support an initiative that supports hard working developers.
I have no hate against those who sell plugins but the painful journey that I go with them is irritating. You buy their product and keep asking for improvement which will never come. You will be treated like a fool for being a user.
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I can understand your points, but there's the other side too. Being a developer can suck too. It's expensive, a time sink, little reward for your work but lots of complaints! As soon as you're finished, folks always ask for more features (imaging releasing a record and getting all these feature suggestions for the next "version"). No matter where you price your product, according to someone it's too expensive. Put it on sale and someone will complain they just purchased it a full price. Don't put it on sale and you're being an unresponsive jerk.Gulale wrote:No you have not missed the point joeyluck. However, from my understanding it is not about hating developers. But developers are abusing their authority or knowledge for the sake of money. You will ask them to add one feature they will take forever to come up when they do they will ask you unforgiving price just because you don't have option or you like their product. They make you suffer for liking their product rather than support each other and go hand in hand. If that doesn't work they put astronomical price tag. And the aim is not to sell it the aim is to sell it when it is on sale still with a much lucrative profit. Expensive in the first place! still expensive on sale. Expensive for the majority of the people. So I support him for what he stands and also I support for those who ask fair amount of cash for their product.joeyluck wrote:Maybe I've completely missed the point...? I'm not sure I get the whole 'looking out for the poor hobbyist musician; protect them from the blood-sucking developers' angle... Developers are people too! I know more awful musicians/recording artists that crack software than I know dishonest or crappy developers. So, musicians can suck it up. That said, I'd much rather support an initiative that supports hard working developers.
I have no hate against those who sell plugins but the painful journey that I go with them is irritating. You buy their product and keep asking for improvement which will never come. You will be treated like a fool for being a user.
Bless Man
But I will say that for a vast majority, if not all of us…
We do not price things to punish our customers. We do not ask you to suffer for our products. We are not abusing our power (what power?) for the sake of money. We do not sit around and listen to suggestions only to laugh and dismiss them out of hand. We do not treat our customers as "fools".
Also remember - there is no "fair" price that everyone can agree on. For every action/decision we developers make, there are those who support it and those who reject it. The goal is to hit the target in the middle where you will have the MOST happy customers. Sadly there will always be unhappy customers, even if your product is free!
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- FlowerSoldier
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Godamn - this is a Good Man. Unfortunately, I'm afraid he may have an over-inflated opinion of humanity. Deep down I don't believe he will hit his goal if only for the fact that people place more value on things they have to pay for. For example, what if Reason depended on the goodness of Patreon patrons...we'd all still be stuck in Reason 5.0. I think this is a man who knows how to do the right thing, but hasn't realized how self serving the average person is. The Avicci tutorial video where he's using a warez version of Sylenth springs to mind.
Hope I'm wrong because I really admire what he is trying to do.
I think Radiohead tried something like this once...that's why they never repeated the experiment.
Hope I'm wrong because I really admire what he is trying to do.
I think Radiohead tried something like this once...that's why they never repeated the experiment.
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