Re: Reason vs Other DAWs [Feature Comparison]
Posted: 11 Feb 2020
And lets be fair.. labels and notes aren't the same! But I'm still using the feature for notes
But the list isn't about 'what I want in a DAW'. It's a feature comparison between DAWs, and a callout to the only online forum community I'm an active member of, to help complete this list, based on their own experiences with the DAWs they use.
For a DAW feature, I'm more of the 'not necessarily' camp. Painting a broad brush, I would go for "a DAW for making music, and an NLE for making video" in the context of purpose-designed software. I'm not going to use 7zip to do my taxes. But there is crossover, and amateur musicians should be throwing their works up on YouTube, it's such a part of the way people interact with content in 2020. I heard recently that YouTube is the second largest 'search engine' on the internet.
Not something I care for, so it didn't make it. But it's a feature I've heard many people lament the absence of, in relation to the DAW that is the focal point for this forum. SO I will add that to the list as well. Again, can you provide a yes/no on which DAWs, in your experience, have this ?
Me neither. I'm trying really hard not to get upset, and add a little humor along with my response, as well as redacting the OP in sections, so as not to make this about people's favourite DAWs on this forum. On reflection, I am at fault here, it was poorly planned out to make it "Reason vs X" and I hope my amendments may bring some data that I can add to.
Yep. Thread is now more neutral. I made a mistake in my approach to this topic.
The first Rule of the 4:20 GMT amended OP is " You do not talk about Reason"
Since you've broken the first two rules of this thread already, I will say this about the DAW you're referencing. The best music I have ever created in a digital workspace was with Reason 4. The huge amount of features that have been added since R4 are quite mindblowing. But I'm not necessarily creating better songs. Imagine a feature list of Reason 4 vs Reason 11. As such, I'm all for Reason, and to this day I can get more done in Reason than in any other DAW (even Cakewalk, to which I've just started exploring. For a CW newbie, workflow is a PITA!). But... but.... but.... if I were to learn how to use Cakewalk where functions became second nature to me, as they are in Reason, then Cakewalk offers a lot more simple, non technical features that would aid me without a doubt.Yonatan wrote: ↑12 Feb 2020Reason is all about intuitive workflow as they many times states and that we came to love with it, so then they could survive to be compared. That does not say anything about the quality and joy of flow that can come out of working with the virtual Rack and SSL mixer and a stripped down sequencer. I mean I love the idea of what Reason is about, but I want also that experience to be a bit more mature in some cases.
Video support as a basic function (playback):
Cakewalk perfectly integrates with Melodyne. Ableton doesn't.
I searched and first video shows how to do it with "warp mode" and "tuner". Maybe a workaround but seem to be working good. It is from 2018 and have not bothered to see if ABL added a dedicated pitch corrector since.
I'm not sure why you removed Reason from a post comparing features between Reason and other DAWs. IMO there was nothing wrong with the initial post in any way, and reading back through the thread I seen no one asking to remove Reason from the list.Proboscis wrote: ↑12 Feb 2020Me neither. I'm trying really hard not to get upset, and add a little humor along with my response, as well as redacting the OP in sections, so as not to make this about people's favourite DAWs on this forum. On reflection, I am at fault here, it was poorly planned out to make it "Reason vs X" and I hope my amendments may bring some data that I can add to.
Yep. Thread is now more neutral. I made a mistake in my approach to this topic.
The way I see it is that yourself & Orthodox went to a great effort to invalidate the idea from the start. In multiple posts. And by all means, if the idea is that it's not very accurate, then this is true not of my list, but of all products features lists.selig wrote: ↑12 Feb 2020I made a point to emphasize the limited usefulness of a list of features not representing the actual user experience, but in no way intended that to change the direction of the thread. Just a reminder there is more to an experience than a feature list, and to take it with a grain of salt - nothing more!
I'm most happy to keep expanding the features and the DAWs, but is there any point, when nobody has helped contribute towards populating the list by completing even a single DAW features summary with a yes/no? Yonotan was kind enough to advise on video support for several DAWs, plus a correction was made early on from some feedback, but it's going nowhere.
That was my thoughts too, but it seem to be criticized repeatedly from the start, so........Timmy Crowne wrote: ↑12 Feb 2020For what it’s worth, I thought the original post was perfectly useful the way it was initially formulated. A comparison chart that simply shows what features are present or lacking across DAWs is fair. This kind of work helps to cut through the marketing hype companies create pretending they’ve reinvented the wheel every year.
It may very well work if you turn the width knob all the way down but the difference being, a mono / stereo interleave button like Cakewalk By Bandlab has allows you to A / B it kind of thing whereas the width knob / parameter / control doesn't. You may have the stereo width a certain way up (as that's where you want it) and you can't automatically bypass it.Proboscis wrote: ↑11 Feb 2020This is a feature suggested by Creativemind in the other thread. And I don't use the stereo width in Reason - does this allow the same outcome ? I'll do a quick test in Reason. But if you think it's unfair to have this on the list I've made, I'm happy to remove it. Your call, guys & girls
Sorry but Reason doesn't have note taking abilities. That combi thing isn't it lol!