Could you build a Rainmaker delay in Reason?

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Aosta
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Post 07 Nov 2018

I feel it is possible using REs but personally I wouldn't know where to begin?
Echo
3Plex
Polar
Echobode
Synchronous
EQ
A ton of other things....and a lot of wires.

How would you build it?

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Loque
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Post 07 Nov 2018

RV7000 has a 4 tap delay, LeSpace has a wide control over the taps, use break outs of the delay and insert delays there, use delays after delays.

The easiest way would be a 14:4 mixer, add delays as fx and route their outputs to mixer channels, set the delays to your settings, panning in the mixer, and now add send to the delays (carefully, you are creating feedback loops).

Note, that you can use Note Echo Player for rythmic delays if you program a synth. This can be done cascading and in combination with arpegiators and more delays.
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Post 08 Nov 2018

.... instead of the typical "-just use 800 tap delays and 400 mixers - and! -"

- let's wait for someone to "actually" upload a patch.

we'll be waiting a while. ...
or, maybe Loque really knows how to "make" one..

I wonder if anyone answering has ever even "seen" or "used" it?

answer.. first you want to know what it does.

The List is Longer that Tap Delays.

Aosta wrote:
07 Nov 2018
I feel it is possible using REs but personally I wouldn't know where to begin?
Echo
3Plex
Polar
Echobode
Synchronous
EQ
A ton of other things....and a lot of wires.

How would you build it?

Antic604 "Well, he's been doing it - mentioning Eurorack hardware - in majority of his posts, so I'm not surprised anymore :? Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:19 pm

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Loque
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Post 08 Nov 2018

O1B wrote:
08 Nov 2018
.... instead of the typical "-just use 800 tap delays and 400 mixers - and! -"

- let's wait for someone to "actually" upload a patch.

we'll be waiting a while. ...
or, maybe Loque really knows how to "make" one..

I wonder if anyone answering has ever even "seen" or "used" it?

answer.. first you want to know what it does.

The List is Longer that Tap Delays.
I am actually not in the studio, but here are a few examples, that delays can more than just repeat a sound:

Here is "The Delay" in action with a simple rimshot:


Here is a feedback done with "The Delay" and mixers, maybe a few fx more, cant remember (i guess you get it, that its always the same boring sound from the start):


This is delay with delay and usage of a break out:


And if i am back in my studio, i gonna make a example of those faster repeating things. Oh, and here is an example i made with Note Echo Player. I think the patch is flying around here somewhere in the forum:


And one more thing...The Echo is pretty cool for flanger/chorus/phaser like fx too.
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Post 08 Nov 2018

... A VERY COMPLEX DELAY MODULE...

Just DELAY.
FeedBack
Pitch Shifting
Tap (Edit - Individually and Global) PER STEP
MUTE
LEVEL
PAN
CUTOFF
REZ
FILTER TYPE
Pitch SHIFT



RANDOMIZE (button)
Antic604 "Well, he's been doing it - mentioning Eurorack hardware - in majority of his posts, so I'm not surprised anymore :? Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:19 pm

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Post 08 Nov 2018

Patches... please.

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Loque wrote:
08 Nov 2018

I am actually not in the studio, but here are a few examples,
Here is "The Delay" in action

Here is a feedback done with "The Delay" and mixers, maybe a few fx more, cant remembe

This is delay with delay and usage of a break out:

And if i am back in my studio, i gonna make a example of those faster repeating things.

And one more thing...The Echo is pretty cool for flanger/chorus/phaser like fx too.
Antic604 "Well, he's been doing it - mentioning Eurorack hardware - in majority of his posts, so I'm not surprised anymore :? Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:19 pm

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Post 08 Nov 2018

I must agree, that having direct controlls to the features is pretty neet. While you can achieve similar effects with other devices, it would be handy to have the "make awsome" knobs. Nevertheless, here is a weird example, just showing that you can get a lot of weirdness out of The Echo. While controlling individual taps might be hard, it still can produce the comb, wobble, filter, flange/chorus fx. I additionally put in a Khs Pitch Shifter.
Weird Echos.zip


For more control i really recommend Le Space: https://shop.propellerheads.com/rack-ex ... /le-space/
It also has some breakouts, which i must admit i never really tried and Le Space got lot of dust in my rack. But this thread forces me to blow off the dust and put it in my rack for experimentation. Le Space has 16 programmable taps, with panning and break outs and a few "make it weird" buttons.
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Loque
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Post 08 Nov 2018

Here is another one while a blew the dust off Le Space. ONe example with a slower echo and one with a faster. All is a lil bit modulated. YOu need Frequency and Pitch Shifter from Khs and the dFilter and yes, you got it, Le Space. Pull up the SUSTAIN of Europa for more fun ;-). Tbh, this patch makes me horny...nomore dust for Le Space - i promise! Forgive me Zvork!
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Post 08 Nov 2018

Aosta wrote:
07 Nov 2018
I feel it is possible using REs but personally I wouldn't know where to begin?
Echo
3Plex
Polar
Echobode
Synchronous
EQ
A ton of other things....and a lot of wires.

How would you build it?
I'd probably throw this into the mix or likely start with this one .....

https://shop.propellerheads.com/rack-ex ... -ensemble/

..... maybe! I don't know much about Rainmaker. Amazing looking module though;

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