Novation SL MKIII MIDI Controller - Presentation

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Damn, just when I thought I “for sure” wanted the Arturia Keylab MkII, along comes this baby. It’s $300 more, but appears to have enough additional features to justify the cost. Need to play the side by side to be sure…

Seeing an interesting trend here - new keyboards with CV outputs. Even the new Moog One includes CV outs! That means the modular craze must be big enough to inspire integration on the MIDI/USB side. Interesting times…


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selig wrote:
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Damn, just when I thought I “for sure” wanted the Arturia Keylab MkII, along comes this baby. It’s $300 more, but appears to have enough additional features to justify the cost. Need to play the side by side to be sure…

Seeing an interesting trend here - new keyboards with CV outputs. Even the new Moog One includes CV outs! That means the modular craze must be big enough to inspire integration on the MIDI/USB side. Interesting times…


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Reason to SLIII to total control of a modular rig.
One can only hope.

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The more I'm thinking about it, the more this is the "Circuit Pro" I have wanted for a while. I already have a few hardware synths I love the sound of, and this is a brain and controller that can work with all of them at once. It's missing some of the things I really wanted from a "Circuit Pro" but is also much more powerful in its step resolution, number of channels, labelled encoders, etc.

HMM.

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Very nice. $999 here in Aus. But have been looking at an Expert Sleepers ES-8 for controlling modular gear from Reason. I could do it with this & much more besides. ES-8 over here is not far off half what the price of the SL MKIII 49 keyboard controller is. Better get saving.

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Another good video.


Reason will be supported! I have no interest in hardware sequencers so this one isn't for me, but the capabilities are quite impressive. Also a wonderful performance tool for those who like to compose live on the fly. Curious to see how deep the Reason control will be. Highly doubtful of RE support as they're advertising vst support either.

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QVprod wrote: Reason will be supported! I have no interest in hardware sequencers so this one isn't for me, but the capabilities are quite impressive. Also a wonderful performance tool for those who like to compose live on the fly. Curious to see how deep the Reason control will be. Highly doubtful of RE support as they're advertising vst support either.
Deep level Reason support will be enough to tilt the scales away from Arturia to Novation. Also looking at Peak as a hardware polysynth for live work, and even though I don’t have the need for CV support, the rest of the features are pretty spot on for what I need in a controller.
Will still want to play one in person, but this is looking more and more promising for my needs now, and well into the future. Who knows, maybe I’ll get back into analog hardware one day…



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selig wrote:
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QVprod wrote: Reason will be supported! I have no interest in hardware sequencers so this one isn't for me, but the capabilities are quite impressive. Also a wonderful performance tool for those who like to compose live on the fly. Curious to see how deep the Reason control will be. Highly doubtful of RE support as they're advertising vst support either.
Deep level Reason support will be enough to tilt the scales away from Arturia to Novation. Also looking at Peak as a hardware polysynth for live work, and even though I don’t have the need for CV support, the rest of the features are pretty spot on for what I need in a controller.
Will still want to play one in person, but this is looking more and more promising for my needs now, and well into the future. Who knows, maybe I’ll get back into analog hardware one day…



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True this has a clear edge over the Arturia board as is. Being that this is the successor to the SL line, I'm sure the keys are great. Analog Lab 3 and Piano V2 are ok but but the Keylab doesn't have nearly as much function to offer outside of it's own software.

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selig wrote:
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Deep level Reason support will be enough to tilt the scales away from Arturia to Novation.
The SL MkIII uses Novation's InControl so integration with Reason will be identical to the Launchkey. To see if this will meet your expectations just find the "Launchkey 61 InControl.remotemap" on your system and review the mappings.

I have both a Novation SL61 MkI and the Arturia Keylab 61MkII and can offer a few thoughts:
  • Due to the placement of the pitch and mod wheels the Keylab isn't as long as the SL so it fits my workspace better.
  • After a few hours getting to grips with Remote I was able to create a codec for the MkII by modifying the codec and mappings for the Keylab MkI. I now have the rotaries, faders and buttons working. The buttons are a click on / click off type and need someone more proficient with Remote than I am to get the best integration.
  • As the pads transmit on channel 10 I have defined them as a separate controller. This makes it possible to play chords, or Kong, whilst playing a melody or bassline on another device.
  • The keys on both are good. Novation tend to use Fatar keybeds.
Novation's Automap is a Marmite technology but IMO it offers considerably better integration with Reason than InControl, though YMMV.
Although the Reason Automap integration hasn't been updated since around version 6.5 that isn't an issue for me, as to get the best out of Automap you need to create your own version of the remotemap anyway. This is reasonably straightforward though it obviously requires an investment of time.
I suspect the same will be true for InControl as Novation seemed to lose interest in Reason when they started their partnership with Ableton.

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Italophile wrote:
11 Oct 2018
selig wrote:
10 Oct 2018
Deep level Reason support will be enough to tilt the scales away from Arturia to Novation.
The SL MkIII uses Novation's InControl so integration with Reason will be identical to the Launchkey. To see if this will meet your expectations just find the "Launchkey 61 InControl.remotemap" on your system and review the mappings.

I have both a Novation SL61 MkI and the Arturia Keylab 61MkII and can offer a few thoughts:
  • Due to the placement of the pitch and mod wheels the Keylab isn't as long as the SL so it fits my workspace better.
  • After a few hours getting to grips with Remote I was able to create a codec for the MkII by modifying the codec and mappings for the Keylab MkI. I now have the rotaries, faders and buttons working. The buttons are a click on / click off type and need someone more proficient with Remote than I am to get the best integration.
  • As the pads transmit on channel 10 I have defined them as a separate controller. This makes it possible to play chords, or Kong, whilst playing a melody or bassline on another device.
  • The keys on both are good. Novation tend to use Fatar keybeds.
Novation's Automap is a Marmite technology but IMO it offers considerably better integration with Reason than InControl, though YMMV.
Although the Reason Automap integration hasn't been updated since around version 6.5 that isn't an issue for me, as to get the best out of Automap you need to create your own version of the remotemap anyway. This is reasonably straightforward though it obviously requires an investment of time.
I suspect the same will be true for InControl as Novation seemed to lose interest in Reason when they started their partnership with Ableton.
Hey,

For the SL you can use the Launchkey script but you'll want to install the one for the SL MKIII which will have way more functionality, that's available for Mac and PC as an installer here: https://customer.novationmusic.com/supp ... t=SL+MkIII

Hopefully you'll find this helpful.

Thanks,
Tom // Novation

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