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Maybe, but there is plenty of call for this kind of music for TV and video. He does this professionally so hitting deadlines and producing something professional comes above producing something that will last decades.Marco Raaphorst wrote:what he comes up with is a cliche.
Agreed .jonheal wrote:I liked it. Very definitely fast with the fingers. I think it's beyond skill. Raw throbbing talent.
Jealousy pure and simple if i dared a guess.dioxide wrote: I'm surprised at the sore arsed comments on here
I'm just not that impressed. What's that software he's using anyway?dioxide wrote:Maybe, but there is plenty of call for this kind of music for TV and video. He does this professionally so hitting deadlines and producing something professional comes above producing something that will last decades.Marco Raaphorst wrote:what he comes up with is a cliche.
I'm surprised at the sore arsed comments on here, I did warn that you might not like the music. I'm sure he doesn't normally work at a piece 10 minutes at a time, these are marketing videos for his services as a musician / programmer. Very few people can work at that pace which gives him an advantage over others.
There are loads on features in new DAWs that I wouldn't want to be without. The point for me is to learn your gear to the point it becomes subconscious. I am like this in Reason up to a point as it is the only thing I use, but seeing this shows I could go a lot further. Plus I don't have the skills as a musician that he hasThe program I use is called Voyetra and I have been using it since 1987.
It really is a DOS based program that I am using only for sequencing.
It is triggering a new computer that has VST Instruments.
I don't want to dismiss his skills on the sequencer at all though, he can use it without thinking. The point is that there are lots of factors here but the resulting workflow is amazing. It's not about the software.Everyone always focuses on the tools, when they are not the point.The point everyone is missing, as usual, is the performance part. The writing of the actual musical parts. The skilled execution. The fact that he's a great piano player. The fact that he can play ghost snare notes perfectly without quantizing or going back over
things to correct bad timing or velocity shaping. The fact that he's playing everything in virtually perfectly the first time.
Choosing the right sounds. Has gathered his samples and vst's extremely intelligently. Has nearly 30 years of experience.
So you should'nt be saying "OH! Voyetra! wow, it's DOS, wow, hmmm, hhaaww" Anybody can come up with a fast way to paste midi performances with any DAW.
It's the skills. It's the skills. It's the skills. It's the skills.
It's not the hammer, or the screwdriver, its the carpenter.
A thousand bucks says there are a bunch of people looking into Voyetra after seeing this, and don't realize that it's not
going to change a damn thing for them.
You'd be much better off taking music lessons, and practicing your butt off.
I'm a guitarist, and i see this constantly of guitar forums. Somebody sees a great player, and instead of asking who
they studied with, they ask what guitar they're playing, and what strings are on it. They don't understand that that
does'nt mean a damn thing.
Yeah sorry to sound sore arsed. But I didn't like the music. Doesn't matter if it takes a year or a minute. I just listen.dioxide wrote:Maybe, but there is plenty of call for this kind of music for TV and video. He does this professionally so hitting deadlines and producing something professional comes above producing something that will last decades.Marco Raaphorst wrote:what he comes up with is a cliche.
I'm surprised at the sore arsed comments on here, I did warn that you might not like the music. I'm sure he doesn't normally work at a piece 10 minutes at a time, these are marketing videos for his services as a musician / programmer. Very few people can work at that pace which gives him an advantage over others.
I have my own company yes.dioxide wrote:Well if you do this full time you've got to have a way to get bookings or you starve. Aren't you a freelancer? People seem to lose all perspective on things as soon as the word Marketing gets used. I was talking about him marketing himself. As a freelancer you almost certainly do the same.
Have you ever heard of jealousy ?dioxide wrote:Maybe, but there is plenty of call for this kind of music for TV and video. He does this professionally so hitting deadlines and producing something professional comes above producing something that will last decades.Marco Raaphorst wrote:what he comes up with is a cliche.
I'm surprised at the sore arsed comments on here, I did warn that you might not like the music. I'm sure he doesn't normally work at a piece 10 minutes at a time, these are marketing videos for his services as a musician / programmer. Very few people can work at that pace which gives him an advantage over others.
I am pretty ionized myself. But this is because I tend to drag my feet on the carpet. I am a walking stun gun, except it's me who gets the stun.NicolaAlexandraHajdu wrote:... There is no human being on this planet without "emote"ions.
Much Love
Nicola
I'm with you Marco.Marco Raaphorst wrote:interesting. we all need to agree on what we like?
so I guess you all love Thelonius Monk as much as I do.
I know, Emot"ions" make you do that from time to time. See ?jonheal wrote:I am pretty ionized myself. But this is because I tend to drag my feet on the carpet. I am a walking stun gun, except it's me who gets the stun.NicolaAlexandraHajdu wrote:... There is no human being on this planet without "emote"ions.
Much Love
Nicola
I won't exactly call myself a "Thelonius Monk fan" but I acknowledge his talent. Keep in mind guys he did this in 10mins on an archaic midi sequencer. Could I come up with something better? Probably, but not in 10 minutesGorgon wrote:I'm with you Marco.Marco Raaphorst wrote:interesting. we all need to agree on what we like?
so I guess you all love Thelonius Monk as much as I do.
You know what? Seems quite a limited "programmer" that he has to stick with the same tool he's been using for 20 years. I had that same speed when I worked with Protracker back in 1992. But I moved on.
A tracker gives you microscopic control over everything. It's great for working with samples (and manipulating them in 16th or 32nd steps). And Renoise has so many features now it would be completely undoable to list them all, but phrase sequencing and excellent automation manipulation (such as Reason has with Syncronous, but much better) come to mind.QVprod wrote: Also, according to the gearslutz thread he also has a Cubase setup. People just choose what works for them I guess. A lot of people use Renoise - personally, I can't fathom to understand the appeal of using a tracker for any reason let alone instead of a linear sequencer, but hey if it works it works.
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