Rock and roll part 2

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gritz
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28 May 2021

Ok a question primarily about the drum pattern on this track - what is the time signature on this also what other song has used this style of drum pattern - reason I ask is I have the pattern but I end up every time with the that bass line associated with rnr part 2 - just curious as someone other than Gary glitter (he who can’t be mentioned) surely has used it

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28 May 2021

what is the track?
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29 May 2021

Thought rock and roll part 2 Gary glitter was a clue

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29 May 2021

Are you talking about this song?



It sounds like a pretty basic beat in 4/4. Thousands upon thousands of songs have used this signature and basic drum beat.
Maybe there is more to your question than what I am understanding?
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29 May 2021

gritz wrote:
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Thought rock and roll part 2 Gary glitter was a clue
if you’re asking for help figuring something out, maybe just reference what you’re talking about, instead of offering “clues”. we’re not here to solve puzzles. nobody wants to have to google something to figure out what you’re talking about so they can then figure out how to answer your question.
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29 May 2021

To be fair, “Rock & Roll Part 2” - the name of the song - is the title of this thread, and it *is* a very famous track. It’s perhaps better known these days in the US as “the ‘hey’ song”, played by pep bands at school football games.

Still, if you weren’t aware of it, I guess I can’t blame you for missing the reference as it is a very generic sounding title!

After conferring with my high-school percussionist, I can confirm it is in 4/4, though it has more of a 12/8 swung feel. I can’t think of other songs off the top of my head but suspect there are plenty from the 70s.

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29 May 2021

Rocknroll is just sped up blues (x2). Bpm, pattern and anything else you can come up with is irrelevant. It's all in the expressiveness of the performer. just my recent observation.



set this to playback speed x2 and play it over garry glitter to see what I mean

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29 May 2021

4/4, triplet swing/shuffle on eights, common for RnR, blues, boogie and whatever else.

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Baylo wrote:
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To be fair, “Rock & Roll Part 2” - the name of the song - is the title of this thread, and it *is* a very famous track. It’s perhaps better known these days in the US as “the ‘hey’ song”, played by pep bands at school football games.

Still, if you weren’t aware of it, I guess I can’t blame you for missing the reference as it is a very generic sounding title!

After conferring with my high-school percussionist, I can confirm it is in 4/4, though it has more of a 12/8 swung feel. I can’t think of other songs off the top of my head but suspect there are plenty from the 70s.
that’s pretty much it—not familiar with the song name. now that someone has posted it, I’ve heard the song many many times, but I’ve never had reason to know its title.

my point was just that if someone is asking for help, to figure out how a song works, maybe they should do just that little bit of legwork to actually link to it so there’s no confusion. and then not be snide when someone asks what they’re talking about. common courtesy.
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30 May 2021

12/17,
Emphasis on the e of the "one e and a"
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30 May 2021

We all know where Gary Glitters emphasis was

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Sir!
I berg your pogram.
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30 May 2021

Thanks for all the responses - I found although it’s a 4/4 tempo it’s difficult to add a strum guitar or baseline I guess it as to be off beat bass lines - I just find thx song ends up sounding like dr who theme music

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Thanks for your patience, we're basically a fair but noodle headed bunch
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gritz wrote:
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Thanks for all the responses - I found although it’s a 4/4 tempo it’s difficult to add a strum guitar or baseline I guess it as to be off beat bass lines - I just find thx song ends up sounding like dr who theme music
What's wrong with Dr Who theme music? ;)

You shouldn't have any problem adding a bassline, guitars, or anything else to this drum beat. And they don't have to be offbeat (unless you want them to be). It's just a basic 4/4 time signature. Perhaps you are having issues with keeping in tempo? That could be the case since the drummer of the original song didn't play to a click track. In that case, what you want to do is import the song audio, then start cutting little clips out of the source audio file. Like 1-4 bars of the original source file. Then you stretch those clips to make them fit your song's bars. If that makes sense? That's what I did with the drum beat.... I just cut 2 bars out of it and used it as a loop. You could also sample the parts where he is saying "hey" or sample the song's main/only guitar riff and do the same thing.

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01 Jun 2021

Man you are brilliant - I still happily corrected lol

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