How many years into learning music production to make this kind of song?

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samsome
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23 May 2020




How many years into learning music production to make this kind of song?

cause i think i've been learning about 7-8 years and seems far away

the notes are ok i think i would find the melodies but looking for those kind of sounds would drive me crazy.....

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23 May 2020

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23 May 2020

It's interesting that you're asking by using an example that came out around the time you started learning production. I started in 2012 myself, and I finished my first composition in Reason around the time Loreen's Euphoria featured in Eurovision, so I knew that's the year it was from.

I feel there are big factors that can make a difference to the answer for your question, including knowledge of music and/or audio before starting production learning, and how much time and money you spend on it. Equipment can make a big difference. It might seem hard to program certain sounds, but then you might buy a synth that has something just like that straight out of the box. One thing that has helped me a lot so far was to deliberately spend 6 hours of production time on 4 bars of music to see what I could do with it. I spent it experimenting with layering of different sounds and effects. It gave me the confidence that I really could produce the sounds I was seeking, and that it's worth spending a lot of time finding or programming those sounds.

Here's Zedd mentioning an example of sounds taking a really long time to choose:



And I think this is the "post-drop" section he might be talking about (until 2:16):



Here's Skrillex and Justin Bieber talking about it (until 4:27):



I think it's worth knowing that producers spend a lot of time on sounds.

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23 May 2020

They say 10,000 hours, to master anything.
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23 May 2020

It is a bit of a silly Q because it is unanswerable. I have met people who after about 3 months of owning some synths have gotten record company attention and others who are older than me who can't sell free hookers on a Saturday night despite having solid material.

How long it takes YOU to learn to do a thing depends on so many factors. How much you put into learning & practicing the basics is the first one. Many people do neither, thinking that mastery will just hop in bed with them one night in the recent future. In many things they say that what you practice is what you do in the ring. So this is why I don't pick a fight with Chuck Norris - and Chuck Norris doesn't get up in my grille about synthesis.

With that track, it starts with a nice symphonic thing with simple but pleasing orchestration then settles for cliche EDM. As for the "Sounds" that is a combo of composition & mixing. Alone I bet those sounds are pretty flat - I hear nothing particularly interesting happening in any of them - but together they make that sound. Melodies are harder to do than sounds so work on that. The sound can be built up later. I do that for people if you are interested.

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Oquasec
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23 May 2020

It should take a year or two to make timberland beats.
It should take 3 or more years of nonstop training to make Arc system music consistently.
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Born 1955
Art is a lifetime project
It's starting to be fun
Who'da knowed!?!?
Who’s using the royal plural now baby? 🧂

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24 May 2020

motuscott wrote:
23 May 2020
Born 1955
Art is a lifetime project
It's starting to be fun
Who'da knowed!?!?
Ha ha. True though i think you are on to something ...its when your at the stage when you actually enjoy it.

Samsome are you a geek? The best producers/electronic artists i know of are pure unashamed geeks. Get in touch with your inner geek man ..thats a sure way to speed any process up .

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24 May 2020

this kind of music is surely made of sound presets and established music theory alone. you can learn to make this kind of sound on YouTube. how long it takes you in the end is a matter of personality. the mixing might be the hardest skill to achieve in this genre.

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nooomy
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24 May 2020

The song is produced by Sweden’s top producer and songwriter Thomas G’son and Peter Biström.

They have been producing pop music for the top mainstream artists in the world for the last 30 years.

simonphinix1986
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24 May 2020

Give yourself 10 - 12 years. But don´t expect the same results. And don´t be disappointed if the result isn´t what you would thought it would be. Just give yourself time and have fun to make music.

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Listen to alot of music.. it's hard to envision something that you've never been exposed to. Listen to all kinds of music and just take mental note of why things seem "put together" for each song. It's really a thing of taste too. Once you've got some hours under your belt you should be able to identify what your sound or vibe is, your sonic signature essentially.. as far as the song you posted, it definitely follows a typical edm script.. it's so straight forward that you can anticipate what the next moment or melody is in the song..

If this is what your shooting for make sure you get used to quantizing..

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26 May 2020

10 odd years ago i did a couple of tunes like that it didnt stick and i got into something else theres a tut on the web that talks you through every step Erm deconstructing the track a annoys me and the magniffiscenrt illusion suddenly seemed easy and time consuming and the true inspiration was not for me, im hoping as i catch up with my air guitar the same thing doesnt happen. im probably going to buy a bike and spend sum time on it to readjust myself. loops and virtual dj keep me happy still
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