$42,530 FINE per Video… FTC is coming for YouTube Creators

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bitley
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Post 20 Nov 2019

It must be as simple as this:

If the channel does nada, zilch, ingenting, nothing bad to children — regardless of how it has been set, it has nothing whatsoever to fear.

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Post 20 Nov 2019

Nothing to worry about. :shock:

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bitley
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Post 20 Nov 2019

Well I can not imagine a western country court judging a multimedia creator to a sentence where there is no crime. If the crime consists of YouTube advertising YouTube is the guilty party. And there will be a fair settlement.

If you were to drive your car on a new road, where the workers who built the road never got paid, nobody can blame you for it as this wasn't something you could ever know or control.

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Post 20 Nov 2019

And I wish clouds were made out of cotton candy. Although too much sugar could be a problem.
Sadly a few YT test mice will be running the gauntlet, for the greater good.

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Post 20 Nov 2019

Common sense must still be available by 2020? :)

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Post 20 Nov 2019

Common sense was available before 2019? :puf_wink:

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Post 20 Nov 2019

"f. audio content appealing to children (e.g. popular tunes or songs..."

Oh well, everyone here is quite safe then ... :lol:

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Post 20 Nov 2019

bitley wrote:
20 Nov 2019
Common sense must still be available by 2020? :)
There will never be common sense. Too many people with too many opinions. So one persons definition of common sense is completely different to another. Some people watch TV shows about pregnant teens. My common sense is that that should never happen.

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Post 20 Nov 2019

It's popular to complain but the people in Hong Kong faces greater fears than content creators in our parts of the world.

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Post 20 Nov 2019

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I can't confirm 100% but someone told me this is a very popular marching band in Hong Kong,
The marching band is safe from the FTC since they can't have their own YT channel, according to my source.
I can't confirm.

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Post 20 Nov 2019

My (perhaps naive) hope is that my super-low-traffic, not monetized channel will be of little interest to these shadowy forces I don't even understand, and I've therefore been ignoring the whole thing.

Still, I can't help but ponder the strategy of things: Should I just mark my whole channel as of potential interest to children, thus protecting them from unintended (by me) targeted advertising, and at the same time protecting me from million$ in potential legal troubles? If the downside of that for my channel is less exposure, that's not really going to hurt me, my exposure is already near zero...

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Post 20 Nov 2019

JiggeryPokery wrote:
20 Nov 2019
"f. audio content appealing to children (e.g. popular tunes or songs..."

Oh well, everyone here is quite safe then ... :lol:
LOL after reading that I can sleep well at night now

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Post 21 Nov 2019

You know those so called creators who reposts old clips from family videos etc about funny cats etc? I can imagine those are at risk, can also imagine some of them making profit on that stuff. That will decrease enormously. And that's actually good because making money that way is quite fishy anyway.

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Post 22 Nov 2019

rgdaniel wrote:
20 Nov 2019
My (perhaps naive) hope is that my super-low-traffic, not monetized channel will be of little interest to these shadowy forces I don't even understand, and I've therefore been ignoring the whole thing.
Don't be so sure. I have a friend who has a surname which happens to exactly match the name of a very famous Disney character. He registered the domain "thatnameonline.com" and posted a few pics and blog type things about himself. He did not use any Disney images or styles or anything but he ended up with a legal letter from Disney. He ignored it and got another letter. This time he responded, basically saying "It's my surname and I'm not using any of your IP" and he added a disclaimer on his site too say that there was no connection with Disney. Then he got the third letter. Much more detailed, explaining how they will start proceedings against him if he does not take down the site. So he took down the site.

He had done nothing wrong but was facing possible legal action from a mega-corporation on a different continent. He has framed the letters but he is still bitter about it.

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Post 22 Nov 2019


:(

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Post 22 Nov 2019

bxbrkrz wrote:
22 Nov 2019

:(
Don't worry...This just means that decentralized platforms need to step up their game. :puf_smile:
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Post 22 Nov 2019

xboix wrote:
22 Nov 2019
rgdaniel wrote:
20 Nov 2019
My (perhaps naive) hope is that my super-low-traffic, not monetized channel will be of little interest to these shadowy forces I don't even understand, and I've therefore been ignoring the whole thing.
Don't be so sure. I have a friend who has a surname which happens to exactly match the name of a very famous Disney character. He registered the domain "thatnameonline.com" and posted a few pics and blog type things about himself. He did not use any Disney images or styles or anything but he ended up with a legal letter from Disney. He ignored it and got another letter. This time he responded, basically saying "It's my surname and I'm not using any of your IP" and he added a disclaimer on his site too say that there was no connection with Disney. Then he got the third letter. Much more detailed, explaining how they will start proceedings against him if he does not take down the site. So he took down the site.

He had done nothing wrong but was facing possible legal action from a mega-corporation on a different continent. He has framed the letters but he is still bitter about it.
This kinda crap has been going on since the dawn of man.

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Post 22 Nov 2019

BRIGGS wrote:
22 Nov 2019
bxbrkrz wrote:
22 Nov 2019

:(
Don't worry...This just means that decentralized platforms need to step up their game. :puf_smile:
We shall call it the Nakamotube
:puf_wink:

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Post 22 Nov 2019

bxbrkrz wrote:
22 Nov 2019
BRIGGS wrote:
22 Nov 2019


Don't worry...This just means that decentralized platforms need to step up their game. :puf_smile:
We shall call it the Nakamotube
:puf_wink:
Lolz! Check out Dtube and maybe bitchute. They are not that great yet. And, Careful, as there is NSFW material on these sites. All this coppa crap, could force them to improve.
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Post 22 Nov 2019

BRIGGS wrote:
22 Nov 2019
bxbrkrz wrote:
22 Nov 2019

We shall call it the Nakamotube
:puf_wink:
Lolz! Check out Dtube and maybe bitchute. They are not that great yet. And, Careful, as there is NSFW material on these sites. All this coppa crap, could force them to improve.
The future is a bittorrent like protocol, with instant streaming. You'll get a big hard drive (50TB?) and everything on it is encrypted, just billions of dusty bits no one can understand or extract, your drive becoming a node, an insignificant little cog in the new Matrix. If your drive dies, then no big deal, the system auto adjusts itself, tapping into other drives.
What's happening (sadly) now will push the web's innovation forward. I agree.

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Post 22 Nov 2019

bxbrkrz wrote:
22 Nov 2019
BRIGGS wrote:
22 Nov 2019


Lolz! Check out Dtube and maybe bitchute. They are not that great yet. And, Careful, as there is NSFW material on these sites. All this coppa crap, could force them to improve.
The future is a bittorrent like protocol, with instant streaming. You'll get a big hard drive (50TB?) and everything on it is encrypted, just billions of dusty bits no one can understand or extract, your drive becoming a node, an insignificant little cog in the new Matrix. If your drive dies, then no big deal, the system auto adjusts itself, tapping into other drives.
What's happening (sadly) now will push the web's innovation forward. I agree.
Kind of like Storj, but for streaming. Sounds like the future to me! :puf_smile:

Now, imagine if Storj added support for streaming and monitization.

ref: https://storj.io
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Post 26 Nov 2019

bxbrkrz wrote:
20 Nov 2019
Nothing to worry about. :shock:
I think the risk of falsified DMCA claims is still a much bigger threat to be honest. Also because people who file such claims can easily get away with being stupid while the content owner has to work pretty hard to correct things.
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Post 26 Nov 2019

ShelLuser wrote:
26 Nov 2019
bxbrkrz wrote:
20 Nov 2019
Nothing to worry about. :shock:
I think the risk of falsified DMCA claims is still a much bigger threat to be honest. Also because people who file such claims can easily get away with being stupid while the content owner has to work pretty hard to correct things.
Sadly everything is bad on all fronts. If you are on your own (and no $$$$$) you are powerless. They can bleed you dry, even if you were right in the end. By then it's too late. The 'artists' have no choice to feed the Mouse, and be fed by the Mouse in return.
Not just The Mouse, obviously.
It's a mess.



It's always a "bug", or a "mistake", or an "update about the confusion" when you can afford to pay multiple law firms.
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