$42,530 FINE per Video… FTC is coming for YouTube Creators

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Post 18 Nov 2019

Back to watching TV commercials again?


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Post 18 Nov 2019

Only fools let children loose on the internet.

Parents are 100% the problem here.

Feel free to disagree, or not.
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Post 18 Nov 2019

BRIGGS wrote:
18 Nov 2019
Only fools let children loose on the internet.

Parents are 100% the problem here.

Feel free to disagree, or not.
100%
42.5K per video, uploaded at any time.
I could see channels 'Jeffrey' themselves first.
Youtubers going to prison because they couldn't pay?
What a bright and beautiful future for the creative minds on YT.

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Post 18 Nov 2019

bxbrkrz wrote:
18 Nov 2019
BRIGGS wrote:
18 Nov 2019
Only fools let children loose on the internet.

Parents are 100% the problem here.

Feel free to disagree, or not.
100%
42.5K per video, uploaded at any time.
I could see channels 'Jeffrey' themselves first.
Youtubers going to prison because they couldn't pay?
What a bright and beautiful future for the creative minds on YT.
Most people don't have $500 saved for emergencies.

$42.5k is blatant slavery.
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Post 18 Nov 2019

Can I just say that I don't understand this at all?

Youtube is a shit fuck. I use it, but between monitizing and all the muck it's lame.

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Post 19 Nov 2019

I don't understand how an American organisation can make laws which apply to people in other countries, let alone impose fines on them. I mean, if that's the way it works, this here infidel is gonna have a hell of a lot of fines coming his way from Saudi Arabia.
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Post 19 Nov 2019

BRIGGS wrote:
18 Nov 2019
bxbrkrz wrote:
18 Nov 2019

100%
42.5K per video, uploaded at any time.
I could see channels 'Jeffrey' themselves first.
Youtubers going to prison because they couldn't pay?
What a bright and beautiful future for the creative minds on YT.
Most people don't have $500 saved for emergencies.

$42.5k is blatant slavery.
To me that 42.5K is a reminder you are born into slavery.
They would not know what to do with their $500 anyway when SHTF.

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Post 19 Nov 2019

I actually see you ARE NOT A parent 🙄
BRIGGS wrote:
18 Nov 2019
Only fools let children loose on the internet.

Parents are 100% the problem here.

Feel free to disagree, or not.
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Post 19 Nov 2019

I believe you are supposed to be over 13 to sign up for YT, unless this has changed too?
:puf_wink: A #NotAllParentsAreBad trending worldwide would make parents mega happy and feel much more responsible :P
I hope the YT creative minds set aside enough cash in their saving account because Armageddon is coming for them. All across YT. You cannot know if what you are producing now will attract children or not in the future.
It's better to say "No" now and get hit with that 90% cut, rather than getting smashed 42.5K per video uploaded at any time on YT.
It is not even a choice.

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Post 19 Nov 2019

reggie1979 wrote:
18 Nov 2019
Can I just say that I don't understand this at all?

Youtube is a shit fuck. I use it, but between monitizing and all the muck it's lame.
Do you have a Youtube Red account?

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Post 19 Nov 2019

Karim wrote:
19 Nov 2019
I actually see you ARE NOT A parent 🙄
How did you come to that conclusion?
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Post 19 Nov 2019

I actually wonder what will happen to very old releases from Disney, Hollywood and so forth. The way we are being re-educated now sadly makes a lot of that material look as if it might be edited or even forbidden. Creators never had to drive with tripple seatbelts and helmet before. USA begins to look like a real dictatorship with these so called ideas.

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Post 19 Nov 2019

bxbrkrz wrote:
19 Nov 2019
BRIGGS wrote:
18 Nov 2019


Most people don't have $500 saved for emergencies.

$42.5k is blatant slavery.
To me that 42.5K is a reminder you are born into slavery.
They would not know what to do with their $500 anyway when SHTF.
Yes, sir! :|
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bitley wrote:
19 Nov 2019
I actually wonder what will happen to very old releases from Disney, Hollywood and so forth. The way we are being re-educated now sadly makes a lot of that material look as if it might be edited or even forbidden. Creators never had to drive with tripple seatbelts and helmet before. USA begins to look like a real dictatorship with these so called ideas.
Yep, our constitution is not even as effective as toilet paper.

Toilet paper is more useful.
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Post 19 Nov 2019

bitley wrote:
19 Nov 2019
I actually wonder what will happen to very old releases from Disney, Hollywood and so forth. The way we are being re-educated now sadly makes a lot of that material look as if it might be edited or even forbidden. Creators never had to drive with tripple seatbelts and helmet before. USA begins to look like a real dictatorship with these so called ideas.
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Post 19 Nov 2019

I just reflected on this as nearly everything I ever saw from the early 1900s from Chaplin, Disney and more includes slapping children, slapping each other, escaping from the police and other (wonderful moments of satire) terrible scenes.

All of the films about bakery and cooking will be banned too as they contain too much wheat and sugar...

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Post 19 Nov 2019

Too much wheat, sugar and feathers.

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bitley wrote:
19 Nov 2019
I just reflected on this as nearly everything I ever saw from the early 1900s from Chaplin, Disney and more includes slapping children, slapping each other, escaping from the police and other (wonderful moments of satire) terrible scenes.

All of the films about bakery and cooking will be banned too as they contain too much wheat and sugar...
When 'protection' becomes a prison...people need to rethink the reality of the situation. But, they don't. Because:

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bxbrkrz wrote:
19 Nov 2019
Too much wheat, sugar and feathers.
@4:53 "you look like two miles of bad road." :lol:
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Post 19 Nov 2019

bxbrkrz wrote:
19 Nov 2019
reggie1979 wrote:
18 Nov 2019
Can I just say that I don't understand this at all?

Youtube is a shit fuck. I use it, but between monitizing and all the muck it's lame.
Do you have a Youtube Red account?
I have no idea what that is?

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Post 19 Nov 2019

reggie1979 wrote:
19 Nov 2019
bxbrkrz wrote:
19 Nov 2019

Do you have a Youtube Red account?
I have no idea what that is?
I understand.

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Post 19 Nov 2019

The problem is so entirely sad and shocking but I have no idea how to clearly interpret the whole thing really, but if you guys can think of (and link to) a few youtube videos that definitely are in the risk zone here (with moderate content please) – go ahead, perhaps we will land on some points where we a) perhaps can understand the reasoning behind it all or b) without further ado sign up anywhere and everywhere we can to prevent this in every single way.

It scares me because I personally grew up on Tintin and Asterix comic books, later Stephen King books, black and white movies with The Little Rascals, Charlie Chaplin etc; all of this content can be viewed in many aspects and indeed, not all of it is suitable for very young children. It should of course be easy to set all videos containing scenes from "It", "The Shining" etc to only be viewable for an adult audience but where does Tintin and Asterix end up (judged by FTC rules) with all of their adventures? Those contain, as most of us know, just about everything from joyful events to fights and even condescending and patronizing satire regarding nationality and culture – and at the same time, isn't it just innocent jokes? I don't know if I should re-educate myself to consider this as something not suitable but at the same time I feel pity for upcoming generations if they will never see comics like the scene where Tintin's car is stuck on the train track – and it gets hit by a train in Africa. The car isn't damaged but the train tracks out. The train passengers all go: "Bad white man! You broke our fine train". When I was nine I could laugh myself to tears – I still remember the whole thing as extremely funny – but it's just a magazine and I didn't grow up to become a racist of any kind.

(As I think about it more closely I simply took it as Africa at the time had pretty light "toylike trains" compared to the ultra heavy duty trains we had here and in France, where Tintin was written; it didn't strike me as racism; of course I have no idea if the trains in Africa at the time – it takes place in the 1920s / 1930s or so – were small, unreliable and lightweight...)

In my school library here in Sweden they had both Asterix and Tintin. They also had comic books that you may not have abroad – would be cool to know – Johan Wild's adventures. The librarian himself often pointed towards those books when we asked for suggestions on what to read, saying that they could teach us a bit about history as well. In 1985 nobody would disagree with that but today it seems as if we must re-evaluate this completely? And then I go like OK, but how will you have success with presenting truly entertaining stories and movies for kids, then? And where do we put the adventures of Lucky Luke? Super adult content for ages 73 and up? ;-) Mesmerizing.

And while I'm at it – movies then? One of my all time favourites is Back To The Future – and there is shooting and killing there as well, but we were allowed to see it and we didn't mind about the "scary" scenes in it – as it was a part of the whole story: if I was asked to say "what" the film is, in one sentence – I'd say it's super funny. The violence in it isn't the whole story but it gives a foundation and depth, I guess, for the story to build on, which makes it adventurous and exciting. But correct me if I am totally wrong!

The whole thing is mazy for me.
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Post 19 Nov 2019

Since it's not going to be explained, all I can say is that kids shows are REALLY hairy.

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Post 19 Nov 2019

bitley wrote:
19 Nov 2019
The entirely problem is so entirely sad and shocking but I have no idea how to clearly interpret the whole thing really, but if you guys can think of (and link to) a few youtube videos that definitely are in the risk zone here (with moderate content please) – go ahead, perhaps we will land on some points where we a) perhaps can understand the reasoning behind it all or b) without further ado sign up anywhere and everywhere we can to prevent this in every single way.

It scares me because I personally grew up on Tintin and Asterix comic books, later Stephen King books, black and white movies with The Little Rascals, Charlie Chaplin etc; all of this content can be viewed in many aspects and indeed, not all of it is suitable for very young children. It should of course be easy to set all videos containing scenes from "It", "The Shining" etc to only be viewable for an adult audience but where does Tintin and Asterix end up (judged by FTC rules) with all of their adventures? Those contain, as most of us know, just about everything from joyful events to fights and even condescending and patronizing satire regarding nationality and culture – and at the same time, isn't it just innocent jokes? I don't know if I should re-educate myself to consider this as something not suitable but at the same time I feel pity for upcoming generations if they will never see comics like the scene where Tintin's car is stuck on the train track – and it gets hit by a train in Africa. The car isn't damaged but the train tracks out. The train passengers all go: "Bad white man! You broke our fine train". When I was nine I could laugh myself to tears – I still remember the whole thing as extremely funny – but it's just a magazine and I didn't grow up to become a racist of any kind.

(As I think about it more closely I simply took it as Africa at the time had pretty light "toylike trains" compared to the ultra heavy duty trains we had here and in France, where Tintin was written; it didn't strike me as racism; of course I have no idea if the trains in Africa at the time – it takes place in the 1920s / 1930s or so – were small, unreliable and lightweight...)

In my school library here in Sweden they had both Asterix and Tintin. They also had comic books that you may not have abroad – would be cool to know – Johan Wild's adventures. The librarian himself often pointed towards those books when we asked for suggestions on what to read, saying that they could teach us a bit about history as well. In 1985 nobody would disagree with that but today it seems as if we must re-evaluate this completely? And then I go like OK, but how will you have success with presenting truly entertaining stories and movies for kids, then? And where do we put the adventures of Lucky Luke? Super adult content for ages 73 and up? ;-) Mesmerizing.

And while I'm at it – movies then? One of my all time favourites is Back To The Future – and there is shooting and killing there as well, but we were allowed to see it and we didn't mind about the "scary" scenes in it – as it was a part of the whole story: if I was asked to say "what" the film is, in one sentence – I'd say it's super funny. The violence in it isn't the whole story but it gives a foundation and depth, I guess, for the story to build on, which makes it adventurous and exciting. But correct me if I am totally wrong!

The whole thing is mazy for me.
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Youtube search: spiderman elsa frozen h3h3productions. h3h3productions is the name of the channel. Watch their videos about the subject. Disturbing. 1000s of channels deleted.
Youtube knew, but did nothing. Made $$$$$$$. Big popular channels, like h3h3Productions, PewDiePie etc, talked about it. Over and over again. Youtube did nothing (at first). Huge scandal.
'Responsible parents' would put a phone or a tablet in front of their kid's eyeballs on Youtube Kid (not sure what the name is) for hours and hours. 100s of millions of views. Yes, 100s of millions across multiple channels. Everything was nice at first, but the algorithm would add those types of videos in the auto playlist for the babies and young children to watch. A sick nightmare.
Fast forward 3 years or so and here we are. Youtube paying a fine, and telling the people who built the platform to get a lawyer.
This is what happens when you have a monopoly like Google/Youtube.

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Post 19 Nov 2019

reggie1979 wrote:
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Since it's not going to be explained, all I can say is that kids shows are REALLY hairy.
Youtube search: spiderman elsa frozen h3h3productions
This will explain the root of what we get today.

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