A Contentious Question

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What is or has been your relationship to pirated software.

Poll ended at 24 Nov 2019

I have never listened to a pirated song, watched a pirated movie or used a pirated version of Office or Windows.
2
2%
I have never used pirated software.
5
6%
I have a pirated DAW on my computer.
1
1%
I have one or two pirated VST/AU on my system.
1
1%
A good percentage of the music creation software on my system is pirated.
0
No votes
I have used pirated software in the past, but I don't at present.
27
30%
My first experience of Reason was through using a pirated copy.
16
18%
If it was possible, I would be using a pirated version of Reason now.
0
No votes
I believe that software piracy can provide some benefits for developers.
6
7%
When I'm better off, I'll buy legitimate versions of my software.
2
2%
For some reason, I always seem to get better results from software which I have paid for.
5
6%
If developers charged less for their software, maybe I'd pay for it.
1
1%
I do use some pirated software, but I feel really bad about it.
0
No votes
On occasions, using pirated software has lead to me later purchasing it.
12
13%
Pirating digital media does not involve the removal of a physical item and therefore it does not constitute theft.
2
2%
Using pirated software from small or individual developers is much worse than using pirated software from the big boys.
6
7%
All intellectual property is theft. Developers are all capitalist fat cats. Come the revolution, all software will be free.
0
No votes
Software piracy is a serious problem and culprits should be punished in the same way as people caught stealing physical items.
4
4%
 
Total votes: 90
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Periwinkle
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Post 17 Nov 2019

I am confident that most Reason users are honest, upstanding individuals who shy away from pirated software and fully appreciate that developers should be reimbursed for their hard work.

However, by some estimates, pirated software comprises more than one-third of all active software in use around the world.

What's your situation?
Last edited by Periwinkle on 17 Nov 2019, edited 1 time in total.
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diminished
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Post 17 Nov 2019

Sorry, but...

Mixing several topics. No option to chose the opposite of a statement or measuring agreement on a scale. Limited number of choices.

This "survey" isn't going to give anyone any meaningful data.

I'd be interested in a discussion if it hadn't been had a billion times in the past decades..

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Periwinkle
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Post 17 Nov 2019

Okay, I'll delete it.
Seems it can't be deleted.

If the mods could delete this for me, that would be great. On reflection I agree that the way I have constructed the poll, it would not deliver any meaningful data.
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Post 17 Nov 2019

It'd be cool if there were other real survey methods offered by phpBB, more than just single or multiple choice :)
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Aquila
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Post 18 Nov 2019

[x] I use a pirated app because the version I prefer is no longer available.

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Loque
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Post 18 Nov 2019

Interesting...
:reason: 11, Win10 64Bit.

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Loque
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Post 18 Nov 2019

Aquila wrote:
18 Nov 2019
[x] I use a pirated app because the version I prefer is no longer available.
I used a crack for a while for a bought game, which CD check was broken on a later Windows. But today its too dangerous to get the crack from some website and now i purchased the same(!) software again(!) with permanent required(!) online authorization. This is so sad...But hey, i now hate the company :lol: :thumbs_up:
:reason: 11, Win10 64Bit.

xboix
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Post 18 Nov 2019

Loque wrote:
18 Nov 2019
Aquila wrote:
18 Nov 2019
[x] I use a pirated app because the version I prefer is no longer available.
I used a crack for a while for a bought game, which CD check was broken on a later Windows. But today its too dangerous to get the crack from some website and now i purchased the same(!) software again(!) with permanent required(!) online authorization. This is so sad...But hey, i now hate the company :lol: :thumbs_up:
I still use a cracked version of Civilization 4, even though I own the proper version. The DVD DRM on the legal version drives me nuts. You get 5 to 10 seconds of nasty clunking noises from the DVD drive and it fails about 25% of the time. Fortunately the days of DRM really punishing legitimate buyers are mostly behind us.

sdst
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Post 18 Nov 2019

Ableton CEO call that free ad, his program Live is in the top 3 , Fl studio in the top 3

I think the same as Ableton CEO

for me if you like a program you must pay for it

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EpiGenetik
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Post 18 Nov 2019

sdst wrote:
18 Nov 2019
his program Live is in the top 3 , Fl studio in the top 3
Top 3 what? As per which source?

sdst
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Post 18 Nov 2019

EpiGenetik wrote:
18 Nov 2019
Top 3 what? As per which source?
musicradar
https://www.musicradar.com/tuition/tech ... day-238905

but i use Reaper that for me is the best Daw

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EpiGenetik
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Post 18 Nov 2019

sdst wrote:
18 Nov 2019
EpiGenetik wrote:
18 Nov 2019
Top 3 what? As per which source?
musicradar
https://www.musicradar.com/tuition/tech ... day-238905

but i use Reaper that for me is the best Daw
That's an opinion piece. It's of no value.

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Post 18 Nov 2019

EpiGenetik wrote:
18 Nov 2019

That's an opinion piece. It's of no value.
same as your comment, nothing of value

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Biolumin3sc3nt
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Post 18 Nov 2019

I'm currently using the Butt-Crack version of Reason 6.9.

Still can't figure out why VST 4 isn't working --- Props need to look into this

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Loque
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Post 18 Nov 2019

Interesting to set this vote into relation of the age-distribution voting here on the forum :-)

A poor kid wants to make music, but has nothing in its pocket...
:reason: 11, Win10 64Bit.

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motuscott
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Post 18 Nov 2019

Through some historical anomaly, I am guilt free, software wise.
Take me now Jeebus!
I'm 63. I'm expendable!
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Biolumin3sc3nt
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Post 18 Nov 2019

motuscott wrote:
18 Nov 2019
Through some historical anomaly, I am guilt free, software wise.
Take me now Jeebus!
I'm 63. I'm expendable!
Lol, You never cease to make Me laugh - God Bless You Sir!

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guitfnky
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Post 18 Nov 2019

Loque wrote:
18 Nov 2019
Interesting to set this vote into relation of the age-distribution voting here on the forum :-)

A poor kid wants to make music, but has nothing in its pocket...
I know you’re not suggesting otherwise, but there are plenty of cheap options to get started in making music. Cakewalk by Bandlab and Tracktion 7 are free, Reaper is $60, and Waveform (Tracktion 10) is often available for $70 or so, I think. I’m sure there are other good options.

ten years or so ago, you might’ve struggled to find an affordable, fully-featured DAW, but that’s no excuse anymore. now the only argument for stealing is you can’t/don’t want to afford a particular feature set.

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Post 18 Nov 2019

Thanks Bio. Small words of encouragement mean a lot to the geezer set.
Sometimes a cigar is just a synth that's on fire

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reddust
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Post 18 Nov 2019

If SOME developers charged less for their software, maybe I'd pay for it... which doesn't mean I'm using pirated copies of their software but purchasing from other dev teams

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Post 18 Nov 2019



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Loque
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Post 18 Nov 2019

guitfnky wrote:
18 Nov 2019
Loque wrote:
18 Nov 2019
Interesting to set this vote into relation of the age-distribution voting here on the forum :-)

A poor kid wants to make music, but has nothing in its pocket...
I know you’re not suggesting otherwise, but there are plenty of cheap options to get started in making music. Cakewalk by Bandlab and Tracktion 7 are free, Reaper is $60, and Waveform (Tracktion 10) is often available for $70 or so, I think. I’m sure there are other good options.

ten years or so ago, you might’ve struggled to find an affordable, fully-featured DAW, but that’s no excuse anymore. now the only argument for stealing is you can’t/don’t want to afford a particular feature set.
Man, i had times were $70 was 1-2 weeks my food and nothing else. And when i was a kid, i never had that much money, except on birthday or xmas :-D
:reason: 11, Win10 64Bit.

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Post 18 Nov 2019

bxbrkrz wrote:
18 Nov 2019
...
This one is obviously the best one:


Yea, the trackers were great at the time, because most were free. I loved the Quadracomposer.
:reason: 11, Win10 64Bit.

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Post 18 Nov 2019

:puf_smile: :thumbs_up:

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Post 18 Nov 2019

Loque wrote:
18 Nov 2019
guitfnky wrote:
18 Nov 2019


I know you’re not suggesting otherwise, but there are plenty of cheap options to get started in making music. Cakewalk by Bandlab and Tracktion 7 are free, Reaper is $60, and Waveform (Tracktion 10) is often available for $70 or so, I think. I’m sure there are other good options.

ten years or so ago, you might’ve struggled to find an affordable, fully-featured DAW, but that’s no excuse anymore. now the only argument for stealing is you can’t/don’t want to afford a particular feature set.
Man, i had times were $70 was 1-2 weeks my food and nothing else. And when i was a kid, i never had that much money, except on birthday or xmas :-D
:lol: been there too. I just mean there are cheap options AND free options these days.

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