Question about "music credits"

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estuary
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Post 30 Apr 2019

Hello,

I would like to ask your opinions about the following situation :

Since few months I am working with a singer.
I composed/arranged few songs (melodies, arrangements ...)

He sometimes sent me some 'demo tracks'
Basically, he is humming a melody pattern and clap hands.
Sometimes with few chords as examples, or sometimes without chords, just humming "lalalalala..."

With severals of his "1 minute humming" I could make complete songs, wrote chords progression, structure etc
Okay, this is basically "arranging" the songs, but I had to decide and polish the melody, especially the chords.


Then
I realized on the credits,
"SONG TITLE"
Music by "His Name"

I am a little confuse, because just because humming "lalalal" and record with your iPhone while probably in the toilets, he got all the music credits.
I expected something like : Music by "His Name / My Name"

What do you think ?
Should I complain about it, or this is fair ?

Thank you
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diminished
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Post 30 Apr 2019

estuary wrote:
30 Apr 2019
Hello,

I would like to ask your opinions about the following situation :

Since few months I am working with a singer.
I composed/arranged few songs (melodies, arrangements ...)

He sometimes sent me some 'demo tracks'
Basically, he is humming a melody pattern and clap hands.
Sometimes with few chords as examples, or sometimes without chords, just humming "lalalalala..."

With severals of his "1 minute humming" I could make complete songs, wrote chords progression, structure etc
Okay, this is basically "arranging" the songs, but I had to decide and polish the melody, especially the chords.


Then
I realized on the credits,
"SONG TITLE"
Music by "His Name"

I am a little confuse, because just because humming "lalalal" and record with your iPhone while probably in the toilets, he got all the music credits.
I expected something like : Music by "His Name / My Name"

What do you think ?
Should I complain about it, or this is fair ?

Thank you
IANAL and not a professional musician, but I freelance in another creative field and here are my thoughts:

...when I read your post first, I thought: yeah, you should give the guy credit, maybe even as co-writer. That it's the other way round is blowing my mind. Unless you work for him on a work-for-hire base where the contract stated specifically that you waive all your rights to the other party, you do at least co-own the copyright.
Learn your lesson and have all such things in writing before starting to work with someone in the future!

estuary
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Joined: 09 Apr 2018
Location: tokyo

Post 30 Apr 2019

Thank you for answer,

Just to clarify,
It's like a duet, we sing together (and basically I play some instruments)
The contract it's clear and fair I believe.
I am just concerned about the songs credits
Songs I created all, the credits are fine (music / lyrics = my name)
Songs we created lyrics together (music = my name / lyrics = my name / his name)
But the songs I tried to explain above, like "humming melodies" are just "music = his name"

Also, the situation is perfectly fine between him and me, we didn't know about it, because the producer/manager decided it.
But I feel I should maybe complain about it. I don't think it's fair actually.
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Marco Raaphorst
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Post 30 Apr 2019

it's fair to mention both names if both have been involved in the creation

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