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plaamook
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Post 06 Jan 2019

The strange thing is that it seems they don't really understand what it is that makes their products great or what HAS made their products great. Reliability and OSX. And the track pads...
They've screwed the student market with price, the pro market with non-configurability and fewer options, and the second hand market by making nothing replacable.
So who's still buying all this shit and why?

I guess not many people.

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tronam
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Post 07 Jan 2019

plaamook wrote:
06 Jan 2019
The strange thing is that it seems they don't really understand what it is that makes their products great or what HAS made their products great. Reliability and OSX. And the track pads...
They've screwed the student market with price, the pro market with non-configurability and fewer options, and the second hand market by making nothing replacable.
So who's still buying all this shit and why?

I guess not many people.
I buy them because they're well designed, quiet, stable, reliable and secure. They also hold their value better than most equivalent tech, so I typically can get 60-80% return on my investment if I sell them and upgrade. The ecosystem also allows for fantastic interoperability. I've been on the Win/PC side for years, but have zero interest in returning. These days I'd rather focus on my projects than be a perpetual computer nerd anymore.

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tronam
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Post 07 Jan 2019

bxbrkrz wrote:
06 Jan 2019

The "fall of Apple" narrative is nothing new and has been continually perpetuated for years. What makes this cycle a little different is that all of the tech giants had a massive spike in share price value last year followed by a huge drop (it wasn't just Apple), but this volatility doesn't equate to these companies being doomed, especially not Apple who makes the lion share of mobile device revenue and profit. Wall Street is fickle and only interested in *growth*, which usually runs against Apple because we've already reached peak smartphone. Most people who would've bought an iPhone over the past 10 years, already have, so the number of expansion markets left have shrunk unless they choose to get into the commodity phone business (which they’ve shown no interest in doing). They sold over 200 million premium smartphones last year, but that's never enough for shareholders because they always want MORE. Apple's services business all by itself could be a Fortune 100 company and they could coast for 10 years, doing nothing, on cash reserves alone. All these bloggers, YouTubers and sites declaring the death of Apple are deluding themselves. Apple is one of the most valuable brands in the world and certainly won’t be disappearing anytime soon.

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Post 07 Jan 2019

plaamook wrote:
06 Jan 2019

So who's still buying all this shit and why?

I guess not many people.
Plenty of us. In my experience the computers are rock solid and they last. OSX is worth it. Things just work and they don't force OS upgrades. They actually nailed it with the new mac minis. The iMac Pro is a beast. They're supposed to be releasing a new Mac Pro this year after doing research observing pro users.

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bxbrkrz
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Post 07 Jan 2019

tronam wrote:
07 Jan 2019
bxbrkrz wrote:
06 Jan 2019

The "fall of Apple" narrative is nothing new and has been continually perpetuated for years. What makes this cycle a little different is that all of the tech giants had a massive spike in share price value last year followed by a huge drop (it wasn't just Apple), but this volatility doesn't equate to these companies being doomed, especially not Apple who makes the lion share of mobile device revenue and profit. Wall Street is fickle and only interested in *growth*, which usually runs against Apple because we've already reached peak smartphone. Most people who would've bought an iPhone over the past 10 years, already have, so the number of expansion markets left have shrunk unless they choose to get into the commodity phone business (which they’ve shown no interest in doing). They sold over 200 million premium smartphones last year, but that's never enough for shareholders because they always want MORE. Apple's services business all by itself could be a Fortune 100 company and they could coast for 10 years, doing nothing, on cash reserves alone. All these bloggers, YouTubers and sites declaring the death of Apple are deluding themselves. Apple is one of the most valuable brands in the world and certainly won’t be disappearing anytime soon.
The second video is about (mostly) everything you said above. I tried to share two different p.o.v. :thumbs_up:

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plaamook
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Post 08 Jan 2019

tronam wrote:
07 Jan 2019
plaamook wrote:
06 Jan 2019
The strange thing is that it seems they don't really understand what it is that makes their products great or what HAS made their products great. Reliability and OSX. And the track pads...
They've screwed the student market with price, the pro market with non-configurability and fewer options, and the second hand market by making nothing replacable.
So who's still buying all this shit and why?

I guess not many people.
I buy them because they're well designed, quiet, stable, reliable and secure. They also hold their value better than most equivalent tech, so I typically can get 60-80% return on my investment if I sell them and upgrade. The ecosystem also allows for fantastic interoperability. I've been on the Win/PC side for years, but have zero interest in returning. These days I'd rather focus on my projects than be a perpetual computer nerd anymore.
That's why I got into them as well. Same same same. And QVProd lists more positive attributes. And yes, if my mac dies I'll be figuring out a way to get a replacement of sorts because I can't face Windows, same with my phone, but they will have to be used because of the prices they're asking. And I'll feel a little nervous because I can't go buy a used mac and trust that anything that goes wrong I can fix it. Nothing's perfect but these things used to be a little more perfect.

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Post 09 Jan 2019


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bxbrkrz
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Post 10 Jan 2019

BRIGGS wrote:
09 Jan 2019
This is an unfortunate normal evolution of big giant corporations in all types of industries, not unique to Apple. In the end it's always how deep that corporation's pockets are to fill their political lobbyists. Lawmakers votes. Lobbyists write the laws.
Here is another example:
John Deere Just Swindled Farmers out of Their Right to Repair
https://www.wired.com/story/john-deere- ... to-repair/

Universal laws of Nature: Trust Vs Rust. If you don't trust the energy that created you from the start you'll eventually rust away. From dust to dust rust. I hope Apple will understand that, if they step outside of their reality distortion field bubble for a few weeks.




Apple's Ouroboros

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Post 11 Jan 2019

I'm so excited about this right to repair shit. Not just Apple, or computers, but everything.

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Post 11 Jan 2019

bxbrkrz wrote:
10 Jan 2019
BRIGGS wrote:
09 Jan 2019
This is an unfortunate normal evolution of big giant corporations in all types of industries, not unique to Apple. In the end it's always how deep that corporation's pockets are to fill their political lobbyists. Lawmakers votes. Lobbyists write the laws.
Here is another example:
John Deere Just Swindled Farmers out of Their Right to Repair
https://www.wired.com/story/john-deere- ... to-repair/

Universal laws of Nature: Trust Vs Rust. If you don't trust the energy that created you from the start you'll eventually rust away. From dust to dust rust. I hope Apple will understand that, if they step outside of their reality distortion field bubble for a few weeks.




Apple's Ouroboros
Apple died with Steve Jobs.

They are resting on the laurels of a brilliant innovator.

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bxbrkrz
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Post 11 Jan 2019

BRIGGS wrote:
11 Jan 2019
bxbrkrz wrote:
10 Jan 2019

This is an unfortunate normal evolution of big giant corporations in all types of industries, not unique to Apple. In the end it's always how deep that corporation's pockets are to fill their political lobbyists. Lawmakers votes. Lobbyists write the laws.
Here is another example:
John Deere Just Swindled Farmers out of Their Right to Repair
https://www.wired.com/story/john-deere- ... to-repair/

Universal laws of Nature: Trust Vs Rust. If you don't trust the energy that created you from the start you'll eventually rust away. From dust to dust rust. I hope Apple will understand that, if they step outside of their reality distortion field bubble for a few weeks.




Apple's Ouroboros
Apple died with Steve Jobs.

They are resting on the laurels of a brilliant innovator.
It is as if Apple became like Xerox or Pepsico in 2018.


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Post 11 Jan 2019

bxbrkrz wrote:
11 Jan 2019
BRIGGS wrote:
11 Jan 2019


Apple died with Steve Jobs.

They are resting on the laurels of a brilliant innovator.
It is as if Apple became like Xerox or Pepsico in 2018.

His spray tan, is coming off all over the white table, lolz!

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bxbrkrz
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Post 12 Jan 2019

BRIGGS wrote:
11 Jan 2019
bxbrkrz wrote:
11 Jan 2019

It is as if Apple became like Xerox or Pepsico in 2018.

His spray tan, is coming off all over the white table, lolz!
I thought he had a misbehaving cat, but yeah pure (gold) cringe, from start to end.

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Post 15 Jan 2019

Big Logic update next week!!!
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Post 16 Jan 2019

lol the macs i have bought all break within a year of me having it i bought a macbook and it broke after having the harddrive replaced in it i found out there was a crack in the battery part where it plugs in and i never took the battery out of it so i am assuming mac took it out to change the harddrive and broke it so it does not work anymore and i have always perfered windows so thats my little rant on macs lol

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Post 18 Jan 2019


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Post 19 Jan 2019


elMisse
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Post 20 Jan 2019

The fact that you can't upgrade storage/ram on the new generation of mbp's, if somewhat crazy business move.
I think they have now done just about everything they can to kill the 2nd hand mbp-market.
Who does this attract? :)

kitekrazy
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Post 27 Jan 2019

There's plenty of DAW Mac users using those old boxes that look like real computers. Some are 9 years old and are upgraded.

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