Tom Delonge...
Posted: 13 Apr 2018
... A future asylum for the mentally ill patient.
Not mad but being fed false information can lead to madness. A mind is a terrible thing to waste so might as well manipulate one is what I meant.normen wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018Do you really think he's mad? I mean, he played in a financially successful band. As anyone knows who works in the business pretty much ALL of those people are showmen, they play a role to some extent, they're used to that environment where you have the audience, the show etc. So.. I didn't (and don't plan to) listen closely to what he says but maybe someone who did can give his impression on that?
I guess too much attention can make somewhat "mad" and conspiracy theorists seem to have pretty die-hard fan bases for a long time - longer than the average band. The Alien choice is quite funny though because that whole thing seems to be less and less popular since theres smart phones.
Smart phones have cameras. We see way more UFO videos now than ever before. We see people (ex US president, doctors, police officers, airline pilots, US astronauts, etc) openly talking about their experience. It is not a taboo anymore.normen wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018I guess too much attention can make somewhat "mad" and conspiracy theorists seem to have pretty die-hard fan bases for a long time - longer than the average band. The Alien choice is quite funny though because that whole thing seems to be less and less popular since theres smart phones.
Being an integral part of the western civilization's consciousness I thought exactly that: most of the stories were pushed by the US government and its allies in Europe. I thought 1947 was the earliest case of a flying saucer (Kenneth Arnold), during and after WWII. Why would they (top secret weapon developers) argue against some people believing in Aliens when they provide the perfect cover for their very secret programs? The stealth bombers we saw during the Gulf war were being tested at least 20 years (Skunk Works) before appearing on CNN for the first time: triangular shapes, do not look like planes, barely make a sound (I think? Never been near one). Case closed then?normen wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018Oh, sorry. I thought it was generally accepted that these stories were deliberately spread by the US government. Didn‘t know theres still believers out there that can articulate themselves properly. But well, it would be cool wouldn‘t it? Our new Pleiadean (or whatever they call them) president will certainly be more exciting than Trump xD
Yes I agree 100% Love anything UFO, stories, etc.normen wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018What I agree on is that from camera recordings, files and peoples reports it's very hard to make out the actual truth - heck, it's even hard to make it out when you witness stuff. But I also think that the truth is most of the time stranger that one would have generally thought, especially in politically loaded topics.
Edit: And btw, I am totally into UFO stories, Erich von Däniken is a german (speaking) guy I carefully listen to the most outrageous stuff if just to test out what seems possible in my mind. Aliens in vehicles never made that mark.
Oh yeah, this I agree 10000% on. I remember back in school we had this discussion in philosophy class and I said "Dude, those were humans, they weren't dumb, they just didn't have the maths etc. yet (maybe they even did!) - they could have very well built this stuff in a way we didn't think of! Maybe they used a wood crane or something." Then the question came back "Yeah but where are the cranes? Why do we only find the buildings?" - So I asked him where the crane is that built the school we sit in and if he thinks if that thing from the 60s would still exist anywhere at allbxbrkrz wrote: ↑18 Apr 2018The major problem I have with the UFO crowd is (And I blame Erich, among others, for this) they always push the narrative that nothing you see (now and in the past) was made by humans. "We are too weak, too stupid. We need the help from an Alien overlord to help us walk, talk, make music, build pyramids, lift 1000 ton blocks".
I would believe the UFO description from witnesses that make zero sense from a human perspective, first. Why? Because if what they see is too close to a human experience, then most likely the alien evolution was very close to ours, it just started earlier. It means they have bad politicians, hooligans and fast food back home too.normen wrote: ↑18 Apr 2018Oh yeah, this I agree 10000% on. I remember back in school we had this discussion in philosophy class and I said "Dude, those were humans, they weren't dumb, they just didn't have the maths etc. yet (maybe they even did!) - they could have very well built this stuff in a way we didn't think of! Maybe they used a wood crane or something." Then the question came back "Yeah but where are the cranes? Why do we only find the buildings?" - So I asked him where the crane is that built the school we sit in and if he thinks if that thing from the 60s would still exist anywhere at allbxbrkrz wrote: ↑18 Apr 2018The major problem I have with the UFO crowd is (And I blame Erich, among others, for this) they always push the narrative that nothing you see (now and in the past) was made by humans. "We are too weak, too stupid. We need the help from an Alien overlord to help us walk, talk, make music, build pyramids, lift 1000 ton blocks".
Edit: And yeah, the "galactic zoo" theory doesn't sound too outrageous for me. Or we're simply still bacteria in the grand scheme of things - dirt in a crust unable to see beyond the crust
When I saw the apple in the Sagan video it reminded me of a lot of UFO descriptions: one light, then the light splits into multiple lights, etc. Are we trapped in a flat universe?normen wrote: ↑18 Apr 2018Yeah, I still have seen (or read of) only a handful of really strange aliens in fiction as well, most are humanoids or insectoids. One I remember was a silicon based life form that basically just created ever larger sand pyramids during its lifetime Making a 5D movie would be kinda annoying though I suppose
Cool article.normen wrote: ↑18 Apr 2018I also liked this idea about Dark Matter: http://nautil.us/issue/42/fakes/is-phys ... telligence (don't be irritated by the "fakes" in the URL, thats just the name of the issue of the magazine )
Brrr.. I hate that theory, in every video I stumble every three minutes over plain logic (mostly hidden in things he DOESN'T say) - maybe I'm just so completely not getting it that everything doesn't make sense, maybe it does only make sense if you think like him, who knows - either way it's of no concern to me, out of my event horizonbxbrkrz wrote: ↑18 Apr 2018Cool article.
Now... What if:
Dark matter, dark energy don't exist. Black holes don't exist. Neutron stars don't exist. There is no such thing as a "spooky action at a distance" because Quantum entanglement between 2 particles across the cosmos is not a mystery, because "Time" don't exist. Gravity? The theory of the creation of our solar system is a myth.
https://www.electricuniverse.info
https://www.electricuniverse.info/safire-project/
It took me a while to wrap my mind around it, when I first watched the video 5 years ago. A elegant unified theory of everything, coming from physicians. They have updated videos on their YT channel.
5 years. I am still fascinated by the subject. The electric universe physicians are not into Aliens or infinite parallel worlds.normen wrote: ↑18 Apr 2018Brrr.. I hate that theory, in every video I stumble every three minutes over plain logic (mostly hidden in things he DOESN'T say) - maybe I'm just so completely not getting it that everything doesn't make sense, maybe it does only make sense if you think like him, who knows - either way it's of no concern to me, out of my event horizonbxbrkrz wrote: ↑18 Apr 2018Cool article.
Now... What if:
Dark matter, dark energy don't exist. Black holes don't exist. Neutron stars don't exist. There is no such thing as a "spooky action at a distance" because Quantum entanglement between 2 particles across the cosmos is not a mystery, because "Time" don't exist. Gravity? The theory of the creation of our solar system is a myth.
https://www.electricuniverse.info
https://www.electricuniverse.info/safire-project/
It took me a while to wrap my mind around it, when I first watched the video 5 years ago. A elegant unified theory of everything, coming from physicians. They have updated videos on their YT channel.
I'm very much with you on things not really existing in a way - poetically put like it's an illusion - practically put maybe somehow consciousness generates the illusion of space/being out of it's interaction with time/becoming.
I wonder if they'll eventually find out if the speed of light, gravity and other constants of the universe were all born as is with the universe, or changed, expanded with it instead.normen wrote: ↑18 Apr 2018No theory is ever lost - the ether returned in the form of the higgs field, Einsteins "greatest blunder" returned as the final puzzle piece for proving his own theory, the idea that "spells" (information) can be put onto things which then cause "magic" (things to happen later) without direct correlation isn't called magic anymore.