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normen
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21 Feb 2018

EnochLight wrote:
21 Feb 2018
We have never been more technologically advanced that we have been today. NOW.
You could also say that we are relatively staved when it comes to talking about "mind things". We just basically lost/lose our religions as a way to talk about that stuff (for good reason) and now we're a bit stuck with languages and societies that are a bit too technical/materialistic for the mind.

But yeah. If you could decide to be born at any time in history you want without knowing WHO on earth you would be you would decide to be born today unless you're monumentally stupid.

Then again it's funny that being born around today would also be the most probable thing to happen by all data we have. Say if there was really exponentially more people in the future then it would be much more probable to be born in the future (area under A). So is the fact that we are born today a hint that the human population in the future goes down (C)? If "we basic" then yes :D

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21 Feb 2018

EnochLight wrote:
21 Feb 2018
bxbrkrz wrote:
20 Feb 2018
We assume for a fact humans before us were not that advanced, and we, right now are much smarter. The paradox is we also still teach the ancient philosophers as the greatest minds ever (with *good* reasons).
I can see how the discovery of things like the Baghdad Battery or the Antikythera mechanism might suggest this. Some people still look at the construction of the Great Pyramids as something humans couldn't do by themselves (which is just silly), but make no mistake: we have very detailed records of human history for the past 2500 years, and from an archaeological perspective - for several thousand years before that. We have never been more technologically advanced that we have been today. NOW.


I mean, unless you subscribe to the fiction of Erich Von Daniken, Zecharia Sitchin, or the series finale of the Battlestar Galactica reboot. In which case, carry on. :D
I like alien stories, UFOs, Scifi movies (except the finale of BSG, Lost, SW's TLJ, and anything bought and touched by the Mouse recently), but I love believing in what the human mind can accomplished way, way more.

Erich Von Daniken believes (for those reading this thread not wanting to duckduckgo his name and his book, "The chariots of the Gods") that everything amazing built in the "extreme" past (we can't carbon date rocks) were done with the help of aliens from outer space. The part that's offending to me is humans can never do anything without the help from a superior master race from the stars. If space aliens can travel and visit us, did another much much older race of space aliens helped their ancestors too? This vision is reducing humans to nothingness and that we should not believe we too could be the aliens visiting other worlds one day, thanks to the power of our own mind, developed on our planet.
Another idea about that theory is this: if you use a service or a product for free, you are the product. Why would aliens give us, stupid cavemen, the knowledge of Φ = 1.618033988749895 and everything else, for free? It surely wasn't free for them to travel across the universe. So was it... "To Serve Man"? :(

We don't need the help from the Anunnaki and Nibiru to learn more about Göbekli Tepe, a place built by Hunter-gatherers 12000 (?) years ago, to marveled at the precision the builders used at places like Sacsayhuamán or Puma Punku. Amazing stuff. To believe there are no more mysteries, everything has been explained away, that we can do and recreate everything done before is strange. We can't. We know because people tried, many times, with modern knowledge and modern tools and could not.
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One thing is for sure though: I know I will always get my fresh GMOs exclusively from Amazon Prime, on time. And on time for the next 10 000 years.

Thank you Jeff Bezos! You are the man of the hour. May your immortal life be plentiful.
http://www.10000yearclock.net/learnmore.html
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27 Feb 2018

Bill Gates just posted this on reddit (he did an AMA a few hours ago):

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(full link to the AMA: www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/80ow6w/i ... nda_gates/)

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27 Feb 2018

WongoTheSane wrote:
27 Feb 2018
Bill Gates just posted this on reddit (he did an AMA a few hours ago):


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(full link to the AMA: www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/80ow6w/i ... nda_gates/)
What he says is true, but... Gates is loved and famous for donating his fortune he made from Microsoft through the bill & (his wife) foundation to causes and politicians he likes. Is he donating away all of it from other sources (shares in Monsanto), and is he pushing for the Monsanto's technology to be open sourced?

GMO is an amazing tech IF everyone has access to it without a license fee.
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WongoTheSane
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27 Feb 2018

bxbrkrz wrote:
27 Feb 2018
What he says is true, but... Gates is loved and famous for donating his fortune he made from Microsoft through the bill & (his wife) foundation to causes and politicians he likes. Is he donating away all of it from other sources (shares in Monsanto), and is he pushing for the Monsanto's technology to be open sourced?

GMO is an amazing tech IF everyone has access to it without a license fee.
He pushes for innovation in the seeds business, which requires funding, so probably not:

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27 Feb 2018

Well, thanks to some people being dicks, many Americans buy into the "GMO's are bad' BS:

https://gizmodo.com/iowa-researchers-ac ... 1823364808
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