For the past year or so, Propellerhead has gone in a direction that has supposedly split it's user base in half ever since these additions were just wild rumors or top-of-the-wishlist banter on different forums around the Internet. VST support and some implementation of a subscription service has both been frequently requested features for quite some time. Now that we as users got both of those features, the debates intensifies. I want to specifically take a look at the newly introduced subscription model and address some issues about it, namely the users that argues against it and what Propellerhead need to do to make it just perfect.
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Why subscriptions is a good thing
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"People should not be bound to the Internet to be creative with the products they actually pay to rent. It’s important that this is available for all user groups, from professionals to hobbyists. Creative beings are sensitive beings. Some of us need to sit in a park, by the lake, or in the forest cabin and be creative without worrying about tethering for Internet connectivity."
I strenuously agree with this.
I strenuously agree with this.
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Great writing. One suggestion as a workaround ... I've also been in the situation with my Mac on a airplane to Thailand. I simple opened Reason while being online and kept an empty Instance on all the time. So opening and creating new projects worked as expected.
Not convenient, I know. But its working
Not convenient, I know. But its working
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Yes, they need to be available offline. Then this can open up the second-hand market. They could even make it so that the developers and props still get a small cut from sales since it'll be traded on their platform.
TheGodOfRainbows wrote: ↑13 Oct 2017"People should not be bound to the Internet to be creative with the products they actually pay to rent. It’s important that this is available for all user groups, from professionals to hobbyists. Creative beings are sensitive beings. Some of us need to sit in a park, by the lake, or in the forest cabin and be creative without worrying about tethering for Internet connectivity."
I strenuously agree with this.
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1st world problem. Having more for less is a good thing. I don't own a cabin near a lake. I don't make music while in a plane. I can't make music near my park, I could lose my stuff.
Many options: buy everything, buy what you need, or to have access to everything for a cheaper deal. This is why subscriptions is a good thing for some people. Options for everybody.
Many options: buy everything, buy what you need, or to have access to everything for a cheaper deal. This is why subscriptions is a good thing for some people. Options for everybody.
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Like most of you, I’m a Spotify, Netflix and HBO subscriber.
Ok, just what kind of information are you gleaning from our browsers during our visits to ReasonTalk?
Actually, really? Are most of us Spotify, Netflix and HBO subscribers? I don't have any of them.
Like most of you, I’m a Spotify, Netflix and HBO subscriber.
Ok, just what kind of information are you gleaning from our browsers during our visits to ReasonTalk?
Actually, really? Are most of us Spotify, Netflix and HBO subscribers? I don't have any of them.
Alright, let's replace "most of you" with "statistics and probabilities would show that..."stratatonic wrote:From the article:
Like most of you, I’m a Spotify, Netflix and HBO subscriber.
Ok, just what kind of information are you gleaning from our browsers during our visits to ReasonTalk?
Actually, really? Are most of us Spotify, Netflix and HBO subscribers? I don't have any of them.
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Amazon Prime, another one to add.Kenni wrote: ↑13 Oct 2017Alright, let's replace "most of you" with "statistics and probabilities would show that..."stratatonic wrote:From the article:
Like most of you, I’m a Spotify, Netflix and HBO subscriber.
Ok, just what kind of information are you gleaning from our browsers during our visits to ReasonTalk?
Actually, really? Are most of us Spotify, Netflix and HBO subscribers? I don't have any of them.
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some "statistics"Kenni wrote: ↑13 Oct 2017Alright, let's replace "most of you" with "statistics and probabilities would show that..."stratatonic wrote:From the article:
Like most of you, I’m a Spotify, Netflix and HBO subscriber.
Actually, really? Are most of us Spotify, Netflix and HBO subscribers? I don't have any of them.
3.8 billion internet users - 140 million Spotify subscribers (and maybe that number is artificially high)
that's a lotta Spotify users however that's not "most of us"
Netflix and HBO subs are even less
Anyways, a good article - other than the "most of you"
Renting out a hardware synth from a music store can cost from 25 to 150+ a month, depending on the synth.
Paying that amount really forces you to get your money's worth out of your purchase!!
One could argue that there is more than enough in Reason to bang out your projects without subscribing to MOAR, but there are specialty things that are not available in the core program. Interesting times.
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AND OF COURSE, I think we have all come to expect that there are SOME workflow enhancements in every upgrade.
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AND OF COURSE, I think we have all come to expect that there are SOME workflow enhancements in every upgrade.
This is where I'm at really.stratatonic wrote: ↑19 Oct 2017One could argue that there is more than enough in Reason to bang out your projects without subscribing to MOAR, but there are specialty things that are not available in the core program. Interesting times.
I am looking forward to using Grain and Europa, but I have moar than enough already.
Amazing article and I agree with the note to Propellerhead. We should not be bound to the internet to use these "time-sensitive" products. So even with the hardware ignition key we need to be online to use the subscription program? Needs to change. But other than that stoked about it!
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