AI - Cheating or just evolution?

[Overtherainbow]

Wow, the AI-voiced Kanye song is just as garbage as the original Kanye songs which makes them virtually indistinguishable. And considering Kanye steals, or, as he puts it, "gets inspired by" the work of other artists, AI should be able to produce Kanye's best album yet.

But if this means garbage can be replicated for free - I'm all for it. People shouldn't be paid for generating garbage because that implies it's not.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but AI has yet to produce anything of value other than the novelty of it being able to produce something. All the visual content I've seen so far is just a collage of something already out there, which is now in fact being taken to courts by the original authors and owners of the content. All the AI-produced business letters are empty word salads devoid of intent, not much better than the "corporate bullshit generator" websites we already had for decades. That's not too advanced. Even Kanye can occasionally add a tiny bit of value.

Let's hear AI produce some Al Green or Led Zeppelin that is NEW - then I'll be impressed. So far it's only good as a free placeholder where garbage would have been otherwise. Which is good - we can get rid of most of what Kanye does, for instance.

[avasopht]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but AI has yet to produce anything of value other than the novelty of it being able to produce something. All the visual content I've seen so far is just a collage of something already out there, which is now in fact being taken to courts by the original authors and owners of the content. All the AI-produced business letters are empty word salads devoid of intent, not much better than the "corporate bullshit generator" websites we already had for decades. That's not too advanced. Even Kanye can occasionally add a tiny bit of value.

This is very incorrect.

AI can generate entirely new content.

While it trains of samples, don't make the mistake of thinking it merely pushes out samples/copies.

Neural networks can perform what's known as dimensionality reduction, as well as derive arbitrary rules that connects the data allowing it to produce something new that's not in the original samples.

The image generation can accidentally push out sample data on occasion, but that's more an exception than the rule. It happens when the neural network has produced its generalisation with enough weights (aka parameters) to spare to store a few things that don't generalise as well.

It is a work in progress, so it's not being hailed as a panacea.

But I can tell you that there are entire disciplines made obsolete overnight by neural networks.

They've been used to solve problems that has eluded bioinformatics for decades and found more optimal ways to calculate things like the n body problem.

They've been used to find ways of playing chess and go with strategies that has never been considered by the greatest minds of the game.

But they're not being hailed as a panacea, and it's still early days. Naturally, the field will progress over time.

[bxbrkrz]

Whatever happened to IBM's Newton?

[DaveyG]

We're heading for some very confusing court cases where one AI is accused of plagiarising something that another AI produced. As usual the law will lag behind the technology.

[Higor]

Let's hear AI produce some Al Green or Led Zeppelin that is NEW - then I'll be impressed.

Artificial intelligence is a tool that will allow you to create, whatever you want, better and faster, is that enough or not?

[bxbrkrz]

We're heading for some very confusing court cases where one AI is accused of plagiarising something that another AI produced. As usual the law will lag behind the technology.

Super easy, barely an inconvenience is one of the main catchphrases of the series, Pitch Meetings always said by Screenwriter Guy. It is an on-running phrase used in nearly every episode whenever Studio Executive Guy thinks something would probably be difficult, to which the the guy giving the pitch responds that it would actually be "super easy, barely an inconvenience", which pokes fun at the fact that the thing being referred to should probably be more difficult than it ends up being.

For plagiarizing cases between AI, use another AI as juge and jury...

[avasopht]

Whatever happened to IBM's Newton?

These systems are all used by billion dollar companies in places you just don't know of.

IBM Watson has progressed a great deal and includes all the stuff you see in other ai solutions, but with an IBM flavour to it.

[visheshl]

Let's hear AI produce some Al Green or Led Zeppelin that is NEW - then I'll be impressed.

Artificial intelligence is a tool that will allow you to create, whatever you want, better and faster, is that enough or not?

Im happy, it'll help me create fart noises better and faster
Fartificial Intelligence 2.0 production by chatGPT

[avasopht]

We're heading for some very confusing court cases where one AI is accused of plagiarising something that another AI produced. As usual the law will lag behind the technology.

This is no different to what you have with people.

Have you never heard a song and thought it sounded remarkably similar to something you'd made years earlier?

Kaoru Wada and James Horner created very similar scores in the same year, so much so that when I played Kaoru's piece a huge fan of Horner was convinced I was playing the Brave heart theme.

Of course, the more sophisticated the models get, the more unique they will become.

[jam-s]

We're heading for some very confusing court cases where one AI is accused of plagiarising something that another AI produced. As usual the law will lag behind the technology.

It has already been ruled that anything AI produced cannot be registered for copyright. So I really hope that the increase in AI usage finally brings this overladen innovation killer (copyright/IP law) to its knees altogether.

[bxbrkrz]

Whatever happened to IBM's Newton?

These systems are all used by billion dollar companies in places you just don't know of.

IBM Watson has progressed a great deal and includes all the stuff you see in other ai solutions, but with an IBM flavour to it.

Yep. I checked their website a while back. I wanted people to be a bit curious about the IBM flavor too...

[Overtherainbow]

I'm absolutely game, guys. Truth is, I haven't made up my mind yet. One thing I can say now is when I see something made by AI, I can immediately say "hey that's made by AI" and I can almost immediately see the method in it. Not so with good "human" input - art or otherwise. Also, I think it's more about the controls a human can have over the AI which is key here, but then again, it still needs human input and the more advanced, the better the output. And yes, some professions may have become obsolete, while others are now emerging.

Actually had a good laugh with the wife watching this

Another point I more or less have an opinion on, is that AI users or providers or both will be taken to courts for using copyrighted data sooner than we may think. That's like...pitting AI against both human greed and sense of justice at the same time. I wouldn't bet my money on AI in this case. The bolts will be tightened real quick. Maybe we can get over it in 50 years. 30? Let's see.

Here's a read on the copyrights issue
https://techcrunch.com/2023/01/27/the-c ... q8O_RzmQTa

Pretty cool stuff on the "n-body", never even heard of it before. Thanks!

[bxbrkrz]

"Hey that's made by AI" is still in alpha, and yet getting more and more photo realistic by the day. And this is the tech shared to the public.
There is nothing 'open' about Open AI. Hired devs developing AI now are coding their own annihilation.
50 years? 30 years? How about 6 to 12 months.

[avasopht]

Okay, forget about all that AI image generation malarky.

This is the real game changer:

A student has successfully appealed against a £60 parking fine by using a letter written by an artificial intelligence chatbot.

When Millie Houlton received the notice from York City Council she said she was tempted to pay rather than spend time compiling a response.

However, the 22-year-old asked ChatGPT to "please help me write a letter to the council, they gave me a parking ticket" and sent it off.

The authority withdrew the fine notice.

Now I just need to see if it can get me out of jury service.

[avasopht]

Another point I more or less have an opinion on, is that AI users or providers or both will be taken to courts for using copyrighted data sooner than we may think. That's like...pitting AI against both human greed and sense of justice at the same time. I wouldn't bet my money on AI in this case. The bolts will be tightened real quick. Maybe we can get over it in 50 years. 30? Let's see.

Here's a read on the copyrights issue
https://techcrunch.com/2023/01/27/the-c ... q8O_RzmQTa

It would be a real shame if copyright laws are extended to machine learning, as it makes a special case for exposure to materials as an influence.

Trends wouldn't exist if people didn't take inspiration from or were shaped by existing works.

[Higor]

Hey, chat whatever what, get Stairway To Heaven covered by Nirvana.

Soon, very soon.

[Higor]

This wasn't done by artificial intelligence but it gives an idea of what's to come.

[Higor]

Okay, forget about all that AI image generation malarky.

This is the real game changer:

Medical appointments will also be made via Chat, which already recognizes images. Without human need, anytime you want. Greatly eliminating misdiagnoses. Chat may require exams. The person makes them and resends again.

[bxbrkrz]

So... What are the jobs AI can never replace?

[DaveyG]

So... What are the jobs AI can never replace?

Forum cynicism. That will always remain uniquely human.

[fullforce]

Hey, chat whatever what, get Stairway To Heaven covered by Nirvana.

Soon, very soon.

Didn't Microsoft start this shit with something called "songsmith"?

[avasopht]

Instead of replacing anyone, this guy showed how he uses it as a programming tool

[Heater]

As much as I love technology and progress I've not got a warm and fuzzy feeling about A.I. It's going to have a seismic shift on our world. We are entering the golden age of A.I and there's not a single aspect of our lives that won't be affected.

At some point we'll have highly capable human shaped robots with excellent vision systems hooked up to advanced A.I.
One way or another they will be able to cover most of our jobs and execute the tasks better then we can, faster, and operate 24/7 with no holidays.

I fear for our jobs.

[bxbrkrz]

So... What are the jobs AI can never replace?

Forum cynicism. That will always remain uniquely human.

[Higor]

We are entering the golden age of A.I and there's not a single aspect of our lives that won't be affected.

It's the same thing as when electricity first appeared. They could never imagine that radio, tv, computers and the internet would originate from this.