I brought measurement, both examples have the same volume.
There is no increase laudness.

So maybe the new russian EDM sound is exactly what you do, what do I know. But I personally think it sounds like crap and its nothing I'd ever do in a pro context to increase loudness unless somebody wants me to artificially destroy the track. I do not think it is appropriate to say something like ...

The problem is that you are looking for a trick where it is not.
This is not a trick.

I do not want to cheat. I do not louder than you.
I do not do a range of less than is required even for classical music.

Do you think I'm doing crap? You have a lot to reconsider.

I'm ready to go back and dwell on Selig's statement. If it ceases to aggressively push me strange questions. And it will not ignore the direct treatment. I'm one against three people. This is called baiting dogs. :puf_unhappy: Again, nobody is against you, how paranoid are you? This is the internet...

I'm ready to go back and dwell on Selig's statement. If it ceases to aggressively push me strange questions. And it will not ignore the direct treatment. I'm one against three people. This is called baiting dogs. :puf_unhappy: Again, nobody is against you, how paranoid are you? This is the internet...

I'm ready to go back and dwell on Selig's statement. If he ceases to aggressively push me strange questions. And he will not ignore direct questions.
I'm one against three people. This is called baiting dogs.

But I will not do other examples. That's why I got angry warning. :| No, nobody is against you or your examples. There's no conspiracy or anything about people ganging up against you. People are exchanging ideas and experiences based on what enters their ears - To me it appears that it's not only a...

But I will not do other examples. Because I got angry warning.

Of course I hear it, but that details are not relating to the dynamic range and laudness. It is the color and character. Loads and distortion. You focuses on completely unnecessary things. You are wrong. I'll explain. I maximize mixer channels in Example 1. I maximized only master in Example 2. So ...

It looks like the fact of using screams causes people to lose objectivity. :puf_bigsmile: Not at all. Just sounds like crap to me, which is a totally objective opinion! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk There is no place for impressions. ;) You are in the wrong place if you believe that. Sent from...

Not sure if this conversation is going anywhere... I don't think music production can be judged from a purely technical standpoint... As in it's louder now by x... Well, if the original sound has been altered too much to achieve this, then I doubt it's going to be of much worth to the musician... A...

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8cros wrote:It looks like the fact of using screams causes people to lose objectivity.

Not at all. Just sounds like crap to me, which is a totally objective opinion!


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There is no place for impressions.

It looks like the fact of using screams causes people to lose objectivity.

gating method - the number LU from zero to stop.
This limit is g8 or g10.

What does any of this conversation have to do with using a loudness meter? Well if I get it right he was trying to maximize the loudness of his track with Ozone, noticed some artifact and then proceeded to try and achieve the same thing (maximizing loudness) with his scream technique (for which I s...

esselfortium wrote:What does any of this conversation have to do with using a loudness meter?

Yes, the gate (loudness) method.

Scream tape - a compressor + saturation.
Maximizer - limit + soft clipping.

It is is largely similar devices. I funny to see ordinary things such resistance.
I would take the M-Class maximizer, but it is very inconvenient to use. No threshold and output level.

I'm going to hold you to your promise of not arguing with Normen. If you continue you will receive a warning. Well I do hope that he didn't mean me but some arbitrary person (the "customer" in my answer). Otherwise, concerning the "scream" track, I completely agree, its just destroyed. The small pu...

You do not consider my nerves as the creator. I am so upset by this failure, which began to hear more and more inadequate. These are the years of bad mixes, in one small volume failure. For me, this is worse. I did not remove it just for the sake of example. :puf_bigsmile: If I was your customer yo...

I gave scream 4 for example. Try to abstract. The iZotope got the terrible artifact that just annoys me. I can hear it. And the scream sounded clean. Paradox, but check it out. :puf_bigsmile: Well I did check it out and the Scream example sounds in no way "clean". The first moment we hear the clap....

I gave scream 4 for example. Try to abstract. The iZotope got the terrible artifact that just annoys me. I can hear it. And the scream sounded clean. Paradox, but check it out. :puf_bigsmile: Well I did check it out and the Scream example sounds in no way "clean". The first moment we hear the clap....

Which is better, screaming or ozone? Scream one sounds terrible to me. Just like distortion on a full mix usually does.. But if you like it then thats good :) I gave scream 4 for example. Try to abstract. The iZotope got the terrible artifact that just annoys me. I can hear it. And the scream sound...

Engineers - the people who created this technology. You understand? Engineers from different countries together.
This fact is just an unprecedented event, if you pay attention.

I've talked to a professional mastering engineer who told me they want NOTHING on the master channel and at least -.4dB of signal to work with. Can anyone explain this? Is the master engineer banned from using the gain knob? As long as it's not clipping what's the problem? My guess is that masterin...

If all has nothing to say, I will continue.

Conclusions.

Scream 4 tape is an amazing algorithm.

Isotope is not a panacea, even at a moderate maximization.